PSE and Cabs
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Let me start with an heretical statement: I don't like the sound of the PSE when I'm on the highway with the top down.
Now I do love PSE and I'm happy I got it, but this is the first time that I've had PSE on a Cab. With the top up, it sounds fantastic (I know that this is partially due to the sound being "piped in"). And with the top down around the city, it's even better with a bunch of gurgling when I lift my foot off the accelerator.
But with the top down, cruising in 6th at highway speeds, all I hear is a very loud, monotonous droning sound. The pitch is pretty unpleasant and I find that I'm turning the PSE off to eliminate its annoyance. But I'm wondering whether this is a break-in thing (I've only driven about 400 miles), or whether this is what others have experienced.
Opinions and experiences from Cab owners are appreciated.
Now I do love PSE and I'm happy I got it, but this is the first time that I've had PSE on a Cab. With the top up, it sounds fantastic (I know that this is partially due to the sound being "piped in"). And with the top down around the city, it's even better with a bunch of gurgling when I lift my foot off the accelerator.
But with the top down, cruising in 6th at highway speeds, all I hear is a very loud, monotonous droning sound. The pitch is pretty unpleasant and I find that I'm turning the PSE off to eliminate its annoyance. But I'm wondering whether this is a break-in thing (I've only driven about 400 miles), or whether this is what others have experienced.
Opinions and experiences from Cab owners are appreciated.
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Just the opposite with you. I sometimes turn the PSE off, with the top closed, on long highway cruises, to make the cabin just a little quieter, less drone (very slight). Top down, all I hear is the PSE, wind noise, music, bliss, and no drone. I'm almost top down, Sport Plus, PSE on.....99% of the time the past 13,000 miles.
In other words, I think the wind noise, drowns out the very slight drone.
In other words, I think the wind noise, drowns out the very slight drone.
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My '07 C4s X51 cab had PSE (no simposer) and I loved the quality of the pipes/tips but almost never turned it on top up or down. I didn't care for the sound as compared to the normal flat6 sound. And since it offers no performance enhancements (according to official Porsche documentation) I vowed to not have it again. My '10 C2s had a Sharkwerks CM bypass and I loved that sound! Now my '13 C4s doesn't have PSE
but it does have flaps or baffles that open at 3300rpm and it sounds great. And the Sharkwerks CM delete for the 991S takes away those flap valves (must plug them) so I am staying w stock this time. I'm getting older too
! Now if my car had PSE, I would be happy but would probably not use it!
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I'm wondering - do you remember any change in the exhaust note pitch as the engine broke in?
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2014 C2S Cab with PowerKit:
I did not notice much difference with the PSE pitch or engine idle sounds post engine break-in procedure. But keep in mind, I did follow the book at keeping stuff below 4,000 rpm for 2,000 miles. So, in all fairness, things started to sound MUCHO different at mile 2,001!
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Have PSE on 100% of the time with top up or down. In town, normally drive Sport+ Manual shift as well. The PSE is pure music to me and especially with the top down. Buying the Burmester was a waste of $.
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There are no symposer pipes in the 991 Cabs, thats only for the Coupes (don't know about the Targa?). With the roof and windows up, your car becomes a boom box chamber, like a speaker enclosure, that's why you hear it well. Remove half the enclosure with the top down and the sound dissipates, simple as that. There is no 'break in' of an exhaust system.
I run a Tubi Exhaust on my Cab - its very pleasant all the time in all configurations.
I run a Tubi Exhaust on my Cab - its very pleasant all the time in all configurations.
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I've got a good friend who shares my passion for cars. We've done five BMW EDs together. When we did the first one many years ago, he drove my 545 out of the old (pre-Welt) pick-up center. Turning onto the nearby autobahn entrance, he looked at me and asked when BMW's break-in period expired. I looked down at my watch and said, "just about NOW". He down-shifted and went WOT. "Just about NOW" has been our mantra ever since. A bit juvenile, yes. But when you're in your mid-50s, the chances of being a kid kinda dissipate!
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I installed PSE in my cab ... I often turn if off when cruising at a constant RPM on the highway, it does tend to drone ... but I think almost any exhaust will exhibit that characteristic if you're maintaining a steady 3000 rpm for any length of time ... the beauty of the PSE is when the revs are varied, especially on the downshifts.
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I installed PSE in my cab ... I often turn if off when cruising at a constant RPM on the highway, it does tend to drone ... but I think almost any exhaust will exhibit that characteristic if you're maintaining a steady 3000 rpm for any length of time ... the beauty of the PSE is when the revs are varied, especially on the downshifts.
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I gotta admit, I've always been a "drive it like you stole it" guy. Impatient, Type-A I guess.
I've got a good friend who shares my passion for cars. We've done five BMW EDs together. When we did the first one many years ago, he drove my 545 out of the old (pre-Welt) pick-up center. Turning onto the nearby autobahn entrance, he looked at me and asked when BMW's break-in period expired. I looked down at my watch and said, "just about NOW". He down-shifted and went WOT. "Just about NOW" has been our mantra ever since. A bit juvenile, yes. But when you're in your mid-50s, the chances of being a kid kinda dissipate!
I've got a good friend who shares my passion for cars. We've done five BMW EDs together. When we did the first one many years ago, he drove my 545 out of the old (pre-Welt) pick-up center. Turning onto the nearby autobahn entrance, he looked at me and asked when BMW's break-in period expired. I looked down at my watch and said, "just about NOW". He down-shifted and went WOT. "Just about NOW" has been our mantra ever since. A bit juvenile, yes. But when you're in your mid-50s, the chances of being a kid kinda dissipate!
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sadly no ring trip for me this time ... wife is copilot and she is high maint ... no 5 star resorts at the ring
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Isn't that the beauty of PSE - you can turn it off when you so chose.
The only time I turn PSE off is when truly cruising on the highway with the family (top up).
The only time I turn PSE off is when truly cruising on the highway with the family (top up).