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Old 03-12-2015, 12:02 AM
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Default Do you use the Sport Chrono on your 991S?

I think the Sport Chrono Plus option is a "must have" for 997.2S PDK cars. I put my 997.2S Cab in Sport mode just about every time I drive it for the sportier shifting. But I never really use Sport Plus mode -- I find it too "aggressive" for regular driving.

So I am wondering about the 991S, which comes standard with the Sport button, but not Sport Plus unless you get the Sport Chrono option. (As I understand it, Sport Chrono also gets dynamic engine mounts on the 991.)

I'm curious how many and how frequently people use the Sport Plus mode for their day-to-day (non-track) driving? I'm thinking I probably wouldn't miss not having it on a 991S w/PSE, but I'm interested in hearing other opinions on it. I am pretty sure I won't miss the wart!
Old 03-12-2015, 12:45 AM
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I have a C2s cabs/PDK and I use sport plus about 40% of the time but always in manual mode. The exception to that is if I'm on back roads doing some spirited driving and even then it's usually in manual mode.
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What Beaver said ^^^.

Damn, I've been wanting to say that for a while. Lol.

I have an S, PDK, PSE & Chrono.

I wouldn't have it any other way. I'd give all of my other options up in my car including the stereo/Nav if it was those 3 or the other.

Once my cars coolant is at least 185 and the oil 160 deg. F. I hit Sport. And leave it in auto. In the S with PSE, the PSE comes on when you select Sport or Sport +.

I drive most of the time in Sport auto. W/PSE on of course. I still override the PDK with the paddles all the time in auto. The only time I drive the car without the PSE on is when I'm pulling into my neighborhood or when passing a cop.

If I select manual, I'm in Sport + exclusively. It shifts harder and faster than Sport in manual. Have only used launch control maybe 4 or 5 times and only then to give a friend or one of my nephews a rush. Don't let anyone tell you they can tell the difference with the dynamic engine mounts that come standard on the S. You can't & I've driven many base Carreras. When u select Sport + the suspension comes on also. You know what I mean.

Just buy what makes you happy and you'll love it!
Old 03-12-2015, 02:48 AM
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Sorry.

Forgot to add Sport + like all others have said is a monster in auto. Almost completely un usable on the street around town. It holds the gears all the way to redline in every gear. I don't use this car at the track which is a shame but that's where Chrono in Auto shines. The GT3 with the PDK -S is fastest around the track in Auto.

I do use Sport + in auto occasionally when entering the freeway (highway) for those outside Kalifornia. Once up to speed which isn't long I go to Sport and leave it there.

I know the car gets slightly better gas mileage on the highway in auto without Sport selected but it just bothers me watching the oil temp creep up to sometimes 230 deg. F. In Sport in 7th gear the oil stays down around 198-205 ish.
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Originally Posted by MarcusG
Sorry.

Forgot to add Sport + like all others have said is a monster in auto. Almost completely un usable on the street around town. It holds the gears all the way to redline in every gear. I don't use this car at the track which is a shame but that's where Chrono in Auto shines. The GT3 with the PDK -S is fastest around the track in Auto.

I do use Sport + in auto occasionally when entering the freeway (highway) for those outside Kalifornia. Once up to speed which isn't long I go to Sport and leave it there.

I know the car gets slightly better gas mileage on the highway in auto without Sport selected but it just bothers me watching the oil temp creep up to sometimes 230 deg. F. In Sport in 7th gear the oil stays down around 198-205 ish.
maybe a 3rd radiator would solve that problem?
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I don't think it is about 3rd radiator. It is just the engine dyanamic, normal gear will have higher oil temp to save fuel, sport gear will have lower oil temp in order to give room for spirited driving and allow for increase in RPM/temp
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Originally Posted by 7and911
I don't think it is about 3rd radiator. It is just the engine dyanamic, normal gear will have higher oil temp to save fuel, sport gear will have lower oil temp in order to give room for spirited driving and allow for increase in RPM/temp
interesting, so you are saying that the oil cooling rate etc is varied according to program, I guess I never thought of it functioning like that.
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Originally Posted by gruve
I think the Sport Chrono Plus option is a "must have" for 997.2S PDK cars. I put my 997.2S Cab in Sport mode just about every time I drive it for the sportier shifting. But I never really use Sport Plus mode -- I find it too "aggressive" for regular driving.

So I am wondering about the 991S, which comes standard with the Sport button, but not Sport Plus unless you get the Sport Chrono option. (As I understand it, Sport Chrono also gets dynamic engine mounts on the 991.)

I'm curious how many and how frequently people use the Sport Plus mode for their day-to-day (non-track) driving? I'm thinking I probably wouldn't miss not having it on a 991S w/PSE, but I'm interested in hearing other opinions on it. I am pretty sure I won't miss the wart!
most people HATE the wart, I dont know why Porsche dont eliminate it, simplify the dash construction, and move any timing functions into the dash MFD ...
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Originally Posted by Larry Cable
most people HATE the wart, I dont know why Porsche dont eliminate it, simplify the dash construction, and move any timing functions into the dash MFD ...
I like it personally!

It looks too plain and flat without it I think!

I guess I'm in the minority.
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Originally Posted by MarcusG
Sorry.

Forgot to add Sport + like all others have said is a monster in auto. Almost completely un usable on the street around town. It holds the gears all the way to redline in every gear. I don't use this car at the track which is a shame but that's where Chrono in Auto shines. The GT3 with the PDK -S is fastest around the track in Auto.

I do use Sport + in auto occasionally when entering the freeway (highway) for those outside Kalifornia. Once up to speed which isn't long I go to Sport and leave it there.

I know the car gets slightly better gas mileage on the highway in auto without Sport selected but it just bothers me watching the oil temp creep up to sometimes 230 deg. F. In Sport in 7th gear the oil stays down around 198-205 ish.
Oh Joy! - this is a feature not a bug to me ... I HATE the STEPTronic in my BMW so much because it short shifts gears WAY to early (even in sport mode) the only way to circumvent is go manual...
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Originally Posted by STG991
I like it personally!

It looks too plain and flat without it I think!

I guess I'm in the minority.
its a bit like a ducktail on a cabriolet!
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I have a 991 C4S with the manual and did not get the sport chrono because of the wart. If the giant clock was better integrated (like with the Cayman) I would have ordered it for the mounts and throttle blip because I'm planning to track the car and still have a lot to learn. On public roads the "sport" button is definitely more than enough. I shift when I want to shift and go to the gear I want. No worrying about a computer holding the gear or deciding to shift.
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Originally Posted by STG991
I like it personally! It looks too plain and flat without it I think! I guess I'm in the minority.
I'm in the minority with you....I don't track my car but have used the SC on several secluded driving courses ranging from 10-70 miles (no lights, couple stop signs). The wart on the dash and PCM display really impress passengers....... almost as much as the sound of the wind whipping through the cab and fish tailing over the ducktail. It's called PSE+
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Originally Posted by STG991
I like it personally!

It looks too plain and flat without it I think!

I guess I'm in the minority.
Count me in as a Sport Chrono lover, too. And for the same reasons.
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Originally Posted by trysixty
I'm in the minority with you....I don't track my car but have used the SC on several secluded driving courses ranging from 10-70 miles (no lights, couple stop signs). The wart on the dash and PCM display really impress passengers....... almost as much as the sound of the wind whipping through the cab and fish tailing over the ducktail. It's called PSE+
From all your pics, it seems to attract the ladies too!

I think it should be referred to as a dash "bulge" instead of "wart".

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