STG

I was at the dealership, they said only the "fast" 911's get the SD wheel. Something like an extra 10HP??

The SD wheel is thicker though? Nice grip!

8/10 women polled liked a guy with a SD wheel better.

Vise

Not sure if kidding but I think objectively the vast majority of people would agree that shifting via paddles is for more intuitive/logical than the stupid buttons mounted on the MF wheel. Not saying they perform any better (ie. shift speed) but the process itself is much more enjoyable... not to mention the paddle style seems to be the universally accepted method of shifting a dual clutch box (see every other manufacturer out there). I don't recall seeing any racing series run a car with wheel surface mounted shift buttons but maybe I'm wrong...

In my opinion the shift 'buttons' on the MF wheel are a big fail by Porsche... if you don't ever shift the PDK manually no worries but for anyone that does I think there is a clear winner. Why else would there by a paddle retrofit option out there for the MF wheel and yet no MF retrofit for the SD wheel? The demand says it all...

As has been noted elsewhere I wouldn't trust what 99% of the people at any dealer has to say. The internet will give you facts vs the often incorrect view of a dealer employee.

STG

Can you guys clarify what you meant by how the paddles shift? Backwards? The new 991.2 steering wheel looks like they switched it?

When using the paddles, are you shifting sooner than the PDK in some gears?

Thanks.

Vise

The opposite for me, I like choosing to keep the car in a lower gear around town... shifting later than the PDK or sometimes not at all. Personal thing of course.

As for how the paddles shift... pull the right one to upshift and the left one to downshift. As with any sensible/modern dual clutch car.

NoGaBiker

LOL, well I've gotten the straight dope from this guy for a lot of years (friends as well as business relationship), and I've gotten a bucket-load of **** from internet experts over a lot of years, so I don't know that I necessarily agree with your generalization.

But in the end, I don't "trust" or "not trust" either him or the internet; I'll pull both paddles when mine comes in and it will do what it's gonna do.

Vise

Fair enough. I've just seen a significant amount of incorrect info passed on as fact from Porsche dealers/experts whereas some time spent on the various Porsche websites would answer most questions correctly. See the thread on PDCC from yesterday on this forum as yet another example. I have to say I respect my sales guy on this, I had a few detailed questions that he flat out had no response for... instead of BS'ing me an answer based on his 'understanding' he contacted Porsche directly and passed their answers on.

Just to clarify I was not referring to people on internet forums as having all of the right answers either... that is clearly a slippery slope.

Rocket_boy

No, not kidding. I pretty much stated fact, not opinion. You're simply stating opinion with your assumptions. My first PDK car was my present 991. Coming from a manual 997 I did not have any "intuition" for what was right or wrong with paddles or buttons,....neither makes the PDK more enjoyable to me as I strictly use the stick. To me paddles didn't even register on the "enjoyment" scale and I'd rather have the abilities of the MF wheel any day of the week.

After several PDK test drives and evaluating both paddles and buttons one thing was clear,....neither made more sense or was more intuitive to me over the other,.....and why would they?, I had been driving sticks all my life! I didn't find the buttons to be either "silly" or stupid",....just different. The few times I have used the buttons I find having the ability to upshift or downshift from a single button a decent feature.

These aren't race cars, they're street cars. If I wanted to play race car wannabe, I guess I could slap slicks and a helmet on and "paddle" my way to work, aside from that I find my MF steering wheel sans paddles much better for the street. To each his own.

Rocket_boy

LOL, 10/10 prefer me to use my stick.

Vise

To each their own indeed. If you like the MF functionality with PDK all good... totally get the functionality strengths and it is taking some getting used to not having volume control on the wheel (first world problems, lol).

I personally have a strong preference for the SD wheel based on experience with both wheels as well as from other dual clutch equipped cars. I don't feel the push buttons on the MF wheel make much sense but if you get used to them more power to you.

STG

Let me guess, but a fan of the ducktail and Sport Design bumper? The GTS model?

A Panamera is a street car. The 911 is a race car you can drive on the street

77tony

Might be someone here that would prefer the MF and swap with you. Worked for me swapping headlights.02 T

PDK1965

I believe it's the thickness that they like