Considering a 991, appreciate feedback
#16
You can get an S coupe with 20k miles on it and a pdk in the 70's without a doubt. I've been looking as well, and the market has loosened up the past couple months. They key is how much warranty is left.
#17
I just traded in my Cayman S..I had it for 8 1/2 months..Traded it in with 13k miles on it..All of which were joy riding..Yes I loved the car..Just put 1k miles on in a week on my 2015 991S!!!!!
I LOVE THIS CAR!!!!
I LOVE THIS CAR!!!!
#19
Chatt was that a cpo car thru a dealer, or private sale?
#20
Rennlist Member
STG991, you keep finding some great cars. First that GT Silver in Livermore; great car but lower front valence had curb rash and was missing full leather and now that red 991 with full leather and red stitching. I'm very picky myself and if only that red car was white or grey and had a black interior😉
#22
Race Director
#23
Race Director
STG991, you keep finding some great cars. First that GT Silver in Livermore; great car but lower front valence had curb rash and was missing full leather and now that red 991 with full leather and red stitching. I'm very picky myself and if only that red car was white or grey and had a black interiordde09
With preowned, you need to be a little flexible. I wanted all the performance options and low miles. Wasn't as concerned with 18 way seats and too much leather, etc..
There was an amazing white/blk 991S or 4S in Southern California that a 6 Speed guy was selling to get a GT3 like 4-6 months ago. Tons of interior options. It's gone now.
#24
Racer
Way over priced and way too many miles. I'd pass. The red one on 6 speed looks great if you can live with the color combo and its a 2014 for less. Very highly optioned.
#25
Rennlist Member
Researching is half the fun. I ordered my 07 and was able to spec 100% to my liking. Since I'm probably going to keep it (15k miles) I can only afford a used one at this time.
#26
Rennlist Member
just for a reference
I traded my c2s 3 months ago for a GT3
it was 2014 MSRP 124k, it had only 1400 miles, and factory warranty started june 2014
the dealer listed it for 99k cpo , not sure how much they sold it for. Hope this helps, but a 2013 with this many miles probably should be in low 80's cpo
I traded my c2s 3 months ago for a GT3
it was 2014 MSRP 124k, it had only 1400 miles, and factory warranty started june 2014
the dealer listed it for 99k cpo , not sure how much they sold it for. Hope this helps, but a 2013 with this many miles probably should be in low 80's cpo
#27
Mine was non cpo, but one owner w new tires, 3m on bumper, hood, front fenders, side skirts and in front of the rear fenders, as well as all maintenance records. It was a true garage queen cherry with all of the options I wanted.
#28
I'm curious why everyone is so scared of a very reliable German engineered, super expensive car that should go a few hundred thousand miles, no problems. 20k miles is nothing, not even broken in yet...
Doesn't make sense...am I missing something?
Doesn't make sense...am I missing something?
#29
Drifting
I don't think it's so much about 20,000 miles being too much, it's about the price being too high, given the 20,000 miles.
One of the problems with "high miles for the year" cars is that prices seem to be determined much more by year than by mileage. Extreme example: a few years ago I bought an old 911 with 17,000 miles. I paid about $10,000 more than equivalent same-year cars with 80,000 miles. Meaning my car had depreciated about $98,000, or $5.8 per mile. The high miles 911 would have depreciated $108,000, or $1.35 per mile. It doesn't seem fair, but it's how it is.
So in a sense, the seller of the high mileage for its age car "wins" and consequently the buyer of that car "loses."
Therefore, buying a used 911 with high miles for its year means you're on the "losing end" of the proposition, even if it's priced correctly (which this one isn't.) Because you're getting dinged mostly for age, not mileage. So why not get one the same age with much lower mileage?
(Obviously, the buyer doesn't "lose" if, for instance, the only way he is comfortable buying a certain model of 911 is to get one with higher miles; i.e., a person wants a 991 not a 997, but 991s aren't old enough yet for there to be heavily depreciated, low-miles 6-year-old examples. So a 3-year-old high miles example, correctly priced, might get the model down into his price range.)
One of the problems with "high miles for the year" cars is that prices seem to be determined much more by year than by mileage. Extreme example: a few years ago I bought an old 911 with 17,000 miles. I paid about $10,000 more than equivalent same-year cars with 80,000 miles. Meaning my car had depreciated about $98,000, or $5.8 per mile. The high miles 911 would have depreciated $108,000, or $1.35 per mile. It doesn't seem fair, but it's how it is.
So in a sense, the seller of the high mileage for its age car "wins" and consequently the buyer of that car "loses."
Therefore, buying a used 911 with high miles for its year means you're on the "losing end" of the proposition, even if it's priced correctly (which this one isn't.) Because you're getting dinged mostly for age, not mileage. So why not get one the same age with much lower mileage?
(Obviously, the buyer doesn't "lose" if, for instance, the only way he is comfortable buying a certain model of 911 is to get one with higher miles; i.e., a person wants a 991 not a 997, but 991s aren't old enough yet for there to be heavily depreciated, low-miles 6-year-old examples. So a 3-year-old high miles example, correctly priced, might get the model down into his price range.)
#30
Rennlist Member
For comparison, about a month ago I paid $75k for a private party 2012 991S PDK coupe with 10k miles original msrp $118k. Clean carfax, clean PPI.