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need opinion: agate grey c4s with espresso/cognac or black/platinum?
what do you all think?
...espresso cognac is beautiful and rich looking, but not sure about the contrast between the grey and the browns....seems almost more sedan like to me...? black and greys more purposeful....?
have about a week to decide before lock-in!
thank you!
I've seen E/C on a white cab and it is very nice looking. Would work on a dark gray, but perhaps not as well. I'll be honest -- I agree that it is more sedan-like. It works better with the Cab because that has more of a GT look to it somehow.
If it were me, Black/Platinum would be the choice.
Actually, I'm ordering this weekend and it will be Black/Carrera Red/deviated-black-carpet for me. But that's not for everyone.
There's just nothing special about grey over black/platinum. I admit that I'm off black interiors right now, but that combo is unimaginative to my eye. Grey over espresso/cognac will be very distinct, but as you're saying, a bit more luxury than sport. Also, agate has a lot of brown in it, so it blends very well.
If you want a more sporting look, would you consider agate over black/garnet? Very sporty and looks great with carbon fiber.
agate grey and espresso/cognac .. too many brown/beige hues competing for attention.
espresso/cognac is a stunning interior, would go well with GT Silver, rhodium silver, carrara white metallic, dark blue metallic, carmine red and possibly guard reds .. IMHO
Read the threads about natural leather interiors before you decide. The differences don't stop at the colors.
I went with Anthracite/Espresso/Cognac, but Agate was my second choice. I think it matches the Anthracite a little better than the Agate. My third choice was GT Silver/Espresso.
Larry's a brown hater, BTW. That's fine, of course, since we all have our own biases.
I must say, if they offered a natural leather in black, my selection may have been different. But they don't.
Read the threads about natural leather interiors before you decide. The differences don't stop at the colors.
I went with Anthracite/Espresso/Cognac, but Agate was my second choice. I think it matches the Anthracite a little better than the Agate. My third choice was GT Silver/Espresso. Larry's a brown hater, BTW. That's fine, of course, since we all have our own biases.
I must say, if they offered a natural leather in black, my selection may have been different. But they don't.
its TRUE ... friends don't let friends go brown...
Color is so subjective it's silly to argue about. However, most leather is naturally brown and I think it's hard to criticize how God made it. Maybe you're smarter? Doesn't mean the different colors are bad, and I'm not generally a fan of brown, but on leather it usually looks, well, natural.
We're ordering Espresso & Cognac btw... and there's more to it than just the color!
Read the threads about natural leather interiors before you decide. The differences don't stop at the colors.
Don't know if there are differences now, but the last time I had a Natural leather I also had a regular leather at the same time. I had a 2002 996TT (Natural Grey) and a 2004 Boxster S550 (Cocoa). Both cars were Full Leather.
At 45,000 miles the Boxster leather looked better than the Natural Grey did at 18,000. The Natural Grey had started crazing a bit on the drivers side bolster, the lower part. The Boxster, not so. Or I should rephrase that: the Boxster was "crazing" like leather will do, but the tiny cracks were still brown. The Natural Grey on the Turbo had fewer crazing lines, but they showed white in the cracks. Which is weird because the Natural leathers are supposed to be Aniline died, which is supposed to impart color all the way through rather than just on the surface. :shrug: Didn't seem to work in my case.
Not a big deal in either case, but I absolutely would never pay for one of Porsche's "Natural" leathers unless that was the only way to get a color I wanted, and then I'd grumble about it.
Don't know if there are differences now, but the last time I had a Natural leather I also had a regular leather at the same time. I had a 2002 996TT (Natural Grey) and a 2004 Boxster S550 (Cocoa). Both cars were Full Leather.
At 45,000 miles the Boxster leather looked better than the Natural Grey did at 18,000. The Natural Grey had started crazing a bit on the drivers side bolster, the lower part. The Boxster, not so. Or I should rephrase that: the Boxster was "crazing" like leather will do, but the tiny cracks were still brown. The Natural Grey on the Turbo had fewer crazing lines, but they showed white in the cracks. Which is weird because the Natural leathers are supposed to be Aniline died, which is supposed to impart color all the way through rather than just on the surface. :shrug: Didn't seem to work in my case.
Not a big deal in either case, but I absolutely would never pay for one of Porsche's "Natural" leathers unless that was the only way to get a color I wanted, and then I'd grumble about it.
Natural leather uses the full thickness of the hide, so they can't use any piece with surface imperfections. Regular leather is "shaved" to remove surface imperfections so, among other things, it's thinner. There are excellent threads here that explain it far better and in better detail than I just did, but I'm too lazy to look them up since my natural leather car is at the dealer. I would encourage you to search them out.
I'm surprised Eduardo hasnt chimed in to help out. His Porsche Exclusive thread at the top is an incredible resource. Long to read now, but so much great info on what for most people is a major purchase. When I read about the process and the product, it made the upcharge for natural leather seem like a (relative) bargain to me.
Natural leather uses the full thickness of the hide, so they can't use any piece with surface imperfections. Regular leather is "shaved" to remove surface imperfections so, among other things, it's thinner. There are excellent threads here that explain it far better and in better detail than I just did, but I'm too lazy to look them up since my natural leather car is at the dealer. I would encourage you to search them out.
I'm surprised Eduardo hasnt chimed in to help out. His Porsche Exclusive thread at the top is an incredible resource. Long to read now, but so much great info on what for most people is a major purchase. When I read about the process and the product, it made the upcharge for natural leather seem like a (relative) bargain to me.
Well, I read all the Porsche marketing blather about it too before I bought one! But I will defer to my own multi-year experience with two Porsches from the same era, parked side by side in the same garage, wherein the non-Natural Cocoa looked a lot better at time of sale than the Natural Grey did, with a lot fewer miles on it. No way I'd ever choose the Natural again unless it was the only way I could get a color I really wanted. I went into the experiment believing the same thing you just wrote -- it may be true in theory, etc., but the execution, at least on the 996TT, was in no way superior (and in that one way inferior) to that on the 986SE I had. Can't explain it...
02-12-2015, 09:42 AM
need opinion: agate grey c4s with espresso/cognac or black/platinum?
