leasing, build vs dealer stock?
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After screwing around for too long looking for the perfect used car, I have decided to lease a new Targa 4S. The numbers work, and I am excited to get started. I have a couple questions, though.
1) Any significant differences between a 2014 Targa 4S and a 2015 Targa 4S?
2) If I find a car already on a dealer's lot I can get it ASAP, but if I have to order a car, how long (approximately) will it take? 4 months? 5 months? Winter's here are pretty awful, so I guess if I can't get the car now to enjoy the last few months of the driving season, I would rather take delivery in the spring.
3) Obviously color is a personal choice, but I love Mahogany Metallic exterior with Luxor Beige (possible two tone) interior.
This car is pretty close to ideal:
http://www.jimellisporsche.com/certi...12481/info.php
Sadly, Porsche lease terms on used cars are very unfavorable, they won't give you less than 12,000 miles a year, and they force a low residual, so the car linked above won't work as a lease.
4) Which brings me to my final question about this car:
http://brumosporsche.com/new/Porsche...93039/info.php
This car is almost perfect for me, but doesn't have Sports Chrono. I'm not really in love with the dial on the dashboard, it's fine I guess, but I would really like to have the 'Sport' and 'Sports Plus' buttons. This car does have sports exhaust, though.
What would I be missing out on with this car, which doesn't have Sports Chrono, vs. the same car with Sports Chrono?
Thanks
1) Any significant differences between a 2014 Targa 4S and a 2015 Targa 4S?
2) If I find a car already on a dealer's lot I can get it ASAP, but if I have to order a car, how long (approximately) will it take? 4 months? 5 months? Winter's here are pretty awful, so I guess if I can't get the car now to enjoy the last few months of the driving season, I would rather take delivery in the spring.
3) Obviously color is a personal choice, but I love Mahogany Metallic exterior with Luxor Beige (possible two tone) interior.
This car is pretty close to ideal:
http://www.jimellisporsche.com/certi...12481/info.php
Sadly, Porsche lease terms on used cars are very unfavorable, they won't give you less than 12,000 miles a year, and they force a low residual, so the car linked above won't work as a lease.
4) Which brings me to my final question about this car:
http://brumosporsche.com/new/Porsche...93039/info.php
This car is almost perfect for me, but doesn't have Sports Chrono. I'm not really in love with the dial on the dashboard, it's fine I guess, but I would really like to have the 'Sport' and 'Sports Plus' buttons. This car does have sports exhaust, though.
What would I be missing out on with this car, which doesn't have Sports Chrono, vs. the same car with Sports Chrono?
Thanks
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I saw this Targa at Brumos on Jun 7. It was their first Targa. It had just been delivered and had not been prepped so we could not drive it. It is beautiful.
My 991 has no Chrono or Porsche Sport Exhaust (PSE). Before buying my boring basic C2 I drove 991s with both. Contrary to most folks, I have the basic C2 because the Sport setting in the base C2 was perfectly satisfying for me and the Sport Plus did nothing more for me. Moreover, the same is to be said for PSE. Call me brain-dead if you wish.
Drive both and see if the difference is significant enough for you to be worth the extra money.
My 991 has no Chrono or Porsche Sport Exhaust (PSE). Before buying my boring basic C2 I drove 991s with both. Contrary to most folks, I have the basic C2 because the Sport setting in the base C2 was perfectly satisfying for me and the Sport Plus did nothing more for me. Moreover, the same is to be said for PSE. Call me brain-dead if you wish.
Drive both and see if the difference is significant enough for you to be worth the extra money.
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After screwing around for too long looking for the perfect used car, I have decided to lease a new Targa 4S. The numbers work, and I am excited to get started. I have a couple questions, though. 1) Any significant differences between a 2014 Targa 4S and a 2015 Targa 4S? 2) If I find a car already on a dealer's lot I can get it ASAP, but if I have to order a car, how long (approximately) will it take? 4 months? 5 months? Winter's here are pretty awful, so I guess if I can't get the car now to enjoy the last few months of the driving season, I would rather take delivery in the spring. 3) Obviously color is a personal choice, but I love Mahogany Metallic exterior with Luxor Beige (possible two tone) interior. This car is pretty close to ideal: http://www.jimellisporsche.com/certi...12481/info.php Sadly, Porsche lease terms on used cars are very unfavorable, they won't give you less than 12,000 miles a year, and they force a low residual, so the car linked above won't work as a lease. 4) Which brings me to my final question about this car: http://brumosporsche.com/new/Porsche...93039/info.php This car is almost perfect for me, but doesn't have Sports Chrono. I'm not really in love with the dial on the dashboard, it's fine I guess, but I would really like to have the 'Sport' and 'Sports Plus' buttons. This car does have sports exhaust, though. What would I be missing out on with this car, which doesn't have Sports Chrono, vs. the same car with Sports Chrono? Thanks
Your second question is tricky. The Targas are a rare breed so they don't have as many allocations and dealers that do tend to sell them quickly and with little discount, although if you shop around you can probably find a dealer with the right timing for the allocation for you +/- right price. For an ordered car you will likely have to wait couple months which will put you into winter unless you're lucky.
My opinion on the last question is purely technical since I don't have my car yet but I would definitely opt for the sports chrono because it is one of he few options that increase performance and will increase the 'fun' factor of driving the car.
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After screwing around for too long looking for the perfect used car, I have decided to lease a new Targa 4S. The numbers work, and I am excited to get started. I have a couple questions, though.
1) Any significant differences between a 2014 Targa 4S and a 2015 Targa 4S?
2) If I find a car already on a dealer's lot I can get it ASAP, but if I have to order a car, how long (approximately) will it take? 4 months? 5 months? Winter's here are pretty awful, so I guess if I can't get the car now to enjoy the last few months of the driving season, I would rather take delivery in the spring.
3) Obviously color is a personal choice, but I love Mahogany Metallic exterior with Luxor Beige (possible two tone) interior.
This car is pretty close to ideal:
http://www.jimellisporsche.com/certi...12481/info.php
Sadly, Porsche lease terms on used cars are very unfavorable, they won't give you less than 12,000 miles a year, and they force a low residual, so the car linked above won't work as a lease.
4) Which brings me to my final question about this car:
http://brumosporsche.com/new/Porsche...93039/info.php
This car is almost perfect for me, but doesn't have Sports Chrono. I'm not really in love with the dial on the dashboard, it's fine I guess, but I would really like to have the 'Sport' and 'Sports Plus' buttons. This car does have sports exhaust, though.
What would I be missing out on with this car, which doesn't have Sports Chrono, vs. the same car with Sports Chrono?
Thanks
1) Any significant differences between a 2014 Targa 4S and a 2015 Targa 4S?
2) If I find a car already on a dealer's lot I can get it ASAP, but if I have to order a car, how long (approximately) will it take? 4 months? 5 months? Winter's here are pretty awful, so I guess if I can't get the car now to enjoy the last few months of the driving season, I would rather take delivery in the spring.
3) Obviously color is a personal choice, but I love Mahogany Metallic exterior with Luxor Beige (possible two tone) interior.
This car is pretty close to ideal:
http://www.jimellisporsche.com/certi...12481/info.php
Sadly, Porsche lease terms on used cars are very unfavorable, they won't give you less than 12,000 miles a year, and they force a low residual, so the car linked above won't work as a lease.
4) Which brings me to my final question about this car:
http://brumosporsche.com/new/Porsche...93039/info.php
This car is almost perfect for me, but doesn't have Sports Chrono. I'm not really in love with the dial on the dashboard, it's fine I guess, but I would really like to have the 'Sport' and 'Sports Plus' buttons. This car does have sports exhaust, though.
What would I be missing out on with this car, which doesn't have Sports Chrono, vs. the same car with Sports Chrono?
Thanks
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After screwing around for too long looking for the perfect used car, I have decided to lease a new Targa 4S. The numbers work, and I am excited to get started. I have a couple questions, though.
1) Any significant differences between a 2014 Targa 4S and a 2015 Targa 4S?
2) If I find a car already on a dealer's lot I can get it ASAP, but if I have to order a car, how long (approximately) will it take? 4 months? 5 months? Winter's here are pretty awful, so I guess if I can't get the car now to enjoy the last few months of the driving season, I would rather take delivery in the spring.
3) Obviously color is a personal choice, but I love Mahogany Metallic exterior with Luxor Beige (possible two tone) interior.
This car is pretty close to ideal:
http://www.jimellisporsche.com/certi...12481/info.php
Sadly, Porsche lease terms on used cars are very unfavorable, they won't give you less than 12,000 miles a year, and they force a low residual, so the car linked above won't work as a lease.
4) Which brings me to my final question about this car:
http://brumosporsche.com/new/Porsche...93039/info.php
This car is almost perfect for me, but doesn't have Sports Chrono. I'm not really in love with the dial on the dashboard, it's fine I guess, but I would really like to have the 'Sport' and 'Sports Plus' buttons. This car does have sports exhaust, though.
What would I be missing out on with this car, which doesn't have Sports Chrono, vs. the same car with Sports Chrono?
Thanks
1) Any significant differences between a 2014 Targa 4S and a 2015 Targa 4S?
2) If I find a car already on a dealer's lot I can get it ASAP, but if I have to order a car, how long (approximately) will it take? 4 months? 5 months? Winter's here are pretty awful, so I guess if I can't get the car now to enjoy the last few months of the driving season, I would rather take delivery in the spring.
3) Obviously color is a personal choice, but I love Mahogany Metallic exterior with Luxor Beige (possible two tone) interior.
This car is pretty close to ideal:
http://www.jimellisporsche.com/certi...12481/info.php
Sadly, Porsche lease terms on used cars are very unfavorable, they won't give you less than 12,000 miles a year, and they force a low residual, so the car linked above won't work as a lease.
4) Which brings me to my final question about this car:
http://brumosporsche.com/new/Porsche...93039/info.php
This car is almost perfect for me, but doesn't have Sports Chrono. I'm not really in love with the dial on the dashboard, it's fine I guess, but I would really like to have the 'Sport' and 'Sports Plus' buttons. This car does have sports exhaust, though.
What would I be missing out on with this car, which doesn't have Sports Chrono, vs. the same car with Sports Chrono?
Thanks
enable you to have the button without the wart (clock)
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Thanks for all the feedback, my local dealer is checking into their allocations, and will hopefully have an answer for me on monday.
Just to be clear, the car without 'sports chrono' will still have a 'sports' button, just not 'sports plus'?
Also, I had read about the Suncoast kit, but couldn't find any information that it was for 991s? I can only find a listing for 997s.
Just to be clear, the car without 'sports chrono' will still have a 'sports' button, just not 'sports plus'?
Also, I had read about the Suncoast kit, but couldn't find any information that it was for 991s? I can only find a listing for 997s.
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That is a great color combo. But the light color of the dash has an objectional reflection on inside of windshield, especially in sunlight. I would order car with 2-tone interior, either Black/Luxor or Espresso/Cognac.
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I think Sport Chrono is a total waste of money, so you should skip it. Seriously. Don't drink the cool-aid. Ditto on the PSE.
That aside, I also think that if you're spending north of $100K, you should not settle for what's on the lot. Order what you want, exactly, no compromises.
And the two-tone interior is gorgeous and worth the money. Go for it!
FWIW, four out of the five (who can remember?) most recent cars that I've bought new were all ordered. My 911S, a C6 coupe, 535i, 335i. A Panamera slipped in there somewhere off the lot. A new A6 has been ordered and will be here soon.
I think I ordered my 911 in late January and it arrived the last day of March. So just a smidgen over 3 months.
That aside, I also think that if you're spending north of $100K, you should not settle for what's on the lot. Order what you want, exactly, no compromises.
And the two-tone interior is gorgeous and worth the money. Go for it!
FWIW, four out of the five (who can remember?) most recent cars that I've bought new were all ordered. My 911S, a C6 coupe, 535i, 335i. A Panamera slipped in there somewhere off the lot. A new A6 has been ordered and will be here soon.
I think I ordered my 911 in late January and it arrived the last day of March. So just a smidgen over 3 months.
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