FlyScotty71

On the 991 911S and 4S, the standard instrument gauges are not all black; the center RPM gauge is metallic silver while the other gauges are black. I did not know that until someone pointed it out to me. They said when their car arrived, they noticed the metallic RPM gauge and they were very disappointed. I went to the dealer and looked at both, and for me, I really liked the all black gauges. You can have all black instrument gauges for $0. So, I made sure and ordered all black gauges since I really like the uniform look.

The base 911 has all black instruments as standard which I think is awesome. Funny how they charge $895 for red, white etc. gauges, but black is $0!!

Sorry to hear that. I really enjoyed the test drive in the PDK and MT with the Sport Chrono; but both were S models. I can see with the PDK maybe it is not as important. But for me, I chose the MT and can't wait to use Sport Plus mode all day long with auto rev-matching. While I can always improve my heel-toe downshifts, it's inspiring to know how good the auto rev-matching downshift feature in the Sport Chrono PKG is.

So for me, since I ordered a MT and suck at heel-toe, Sport Chrono was a must have.

LexVan

Thank you Pilot and Fly. Did not know that about the 991 dials. Now I need to deecide about all black or do the white. Have a couple more weeks to lock in.

rpilot

Sports Chrono IMO is most misunderstood. Yes, it does have dynamic engine mounts but when I tested the cars myself at any speed I expected to do on public roads, I could not really tell the difference. The dash wart, either you like or you hate.

I will agree with the previous poster that the real benefit of the Sports Chrono is with a MT because of those rev matched shifts. It just makes driving the car easier and the throttle response really crisp with a MT.

With the PDK, the benefit is mainly launch control, which personally just testing it once at the dealer was enough for me. Others have mentioned that it is fun to be in sports plus and manually shift the PDK, but I have been happy enough with it in Sports mode without the Sports chrono package.

On the track however I think Sports Plus would be a gotta have feature since the PDK sports plus logic allegedly works pretty good.

In an ideal world I would own both my base C2 and get a GT3 for a weekend / track car. That way I get the base 3.4 sound without PSE that I love and get the AWESOME GT3 SOUND AND all the sports chrono benefits without the dash wart which is optional on the GT3.

Dalema

You're going to love the car!

Also, even without the chrono there is a soft launch which is more than enough for the street. Will hold the rpm at around 4,500 rpm.

I thought chrono (which I don't have) just crisp up the pdk and gets you some 0-60 time savings. Unsure about that though.

gota911

My 996 had the silver dials and my current 997.2 has silver dials. The thing I like about the silver dials, is that I get silver dials during daylight hours, gray dials at dawn/dusk and black dials at night. I think the white dials would react the same way.

On the other hand, Black dials will always be black.

Just my observations.

rpilot

I am not familiar with the exact contrast of the 997.2 silver dials, but to my eyes the contrast of the silver/gray tach dial in the 991S is very low compared to the black one which if I were to guess, the latter would be preferred by the majority.

MarcusG

Great news and congrats on your order! That color is one of my favs.

Without sounding like the peanut gallery and it's only a suggestion...and I'm not sure how many Porsche dealerships are within a reasonable drive but before you pass the point of no return on your order I'd drive what you ordered and a 4S with

PDK
Sport chrono
PSE

and drive them back to back. Just to make sure. There's nothing like wishing you had ordered something after your car is delivered especially since you are ordering exactly what you want. Driving an S and non S with or without PSE offer different experiences.

Like I said, it's only a suggestion and free to do now. I'll admit here in Los Angeles we are bit spoiled having no less than 6 dealerships within an hour drive of each other traffic permitting.

Congrats again on your order!

doc76

Thanks Marcus!
As I said in an earlier post, I had SCP on my Cayman S and never used the Sport plus/launch control. It was an easy choice to pass on the SCP since the
C4S already comes with the sport button standard. I would love the PSE but I really had to draw the line somewhere. This build in Canada with taxes is already over 150K. I chose to add options that couldn't be added later. I can easily add the PSE in the future when I need a little change.

Viper3838

Hi Doc 76, any idea how much is PSE in Canada added afterwards?

doc76

I never bothered checking. If we are around par, it's a no brainer to get it done in the US. We'll probably save about $1000.

Tacet-Conundrum

So did you order this buy it off the lot.

Looks like a lot build. Nothing wrong with that.

BradB

I ordered the black dials because I found them far more legible. I like the idea of white gauges but skipped it because of cost and the fact that now one of the 991 gauges is electronic and it looked odd contrasting against the white gauges. Like a black eye!

doc76

No my build is a custom order. The cars they had on the lot had a lot more features which I had no interest in using and paying for like power seats, bose stereo, headlight package, etc...
The C4S thankfully comes standard with a lot of the things I was looking for.

MarcusG

Doc,


That sounds about right. Everywhere I have been they have 2014's on the ground loaded up with so many options. If a buyer right now is dead set on leaving the dealer with a car and has money to burn, an optioned up $144,000 C2S is just what the dealer wants you to leave with.

Glad you ordered yours the way you want.

I just happened to get lucky and find a 2013 with 12 miles on it and only the things I reallly neeeded.

PDK
Sport Chrono
PSE
20" Classic's
blacked out headlamps
sunroof in glass
parking sensors

...smoking package.. Ok, I guess if it has it I'll take it! lol. Just another place to plug in another phone. My daughter plugs her in there when mine is plugged in under the armrest.

doc76

MarcusG,
If I found one like yours, I would have bought it!
The cheapest C4S they had at the dealer was 159k plus fees/taxes (13%)!!!