50th edition still available?
09-17-2013, 10:42 AM
#31
Sweet! A discussion about personal preferences! My favourite 
Wat puzzles is me that the ones who didn't buy one always seem to think the ones that bought one are in it for the money, or better said the value after x years... Apparently, to them, it's impossible someone buys just because they love it.
The colors are special, as they should be on an anniversary model and the Geyser Grey is just stunning.
The things that pulled me over (apart from the 50 years touches and the colors) are the rims, the houndstooth and the green dials which reflects the old cars perfectly into it's new watercooled jacket.
The 964 Jubi didn't sell well, also because of it's funky color, now, 20 years later everybody wants one. Some of us are pioneers and see the light while the rest is looking behind.
I'm looking at a 1:43 scale model right now and everything about it is just so right and so perfectly chosen that it can't be beaten by any built to spec Carrera because, let's be honest? Most of us don't come further than deviated stitching or a red interior in a grey car. Just look at the "perfect" 991 that was built by the Facebook users: white rims and a striping on funky blue (yawn). Is that it?
No, the Jubi is a different game, maybe too big for some, but they can always buy a second hand one in about 10 to 20 years
But hey, each to his own
Wat puzzles is me that the ones who didn't buy one always seem to think the ones that bought one are in it for the money, or better said the value after x years... Apparently, to them, it's impossible someone buys just because they love it.
The colors are special, as they should be on an anniversary model and the Geyser Grey is just stunning.
The things that pulled me over (apart from the 50 years touches and the colors) are the rims, the houndstooth and the green dials which reflects the old cars perfectly into it's new watercooled jacket.
The 964 Jubi didn't sell well, also because of it's funky color, now, 20 years later everybody wants one. Some of us are pioneers and see the light while the rest is looking behind.
I'm looking at a 1:43 scale model right now and everything about it is just so right and so perfectly chosen that it can't be beaten by any built to spec Carrera because, let's be honest? Most of us don't come further than deviated stitching or a red interior in a grey car. Just look at the "perfect" 991 that was built by the Facebook users: white rims and a striping on funky blue (yawn). Is that it?
No, the Jubi is a different game, maybe too big for some, but they can always buy a second hand one in about 10 to 20 years
But hey, each to his own
As for the value of the car, well all contemporary P cars (with the exception of the CGT maybe) lose value, just a matter of how much. I don't think any anniversary cars are good investements, unless you really hold on to it for like the next 50 years.
The GT3 is the best "bang for the buck" in the lineup, but if you're not on the list by now and if you're a purist who wants a manual, then it's irrelevant also.
09-17-2013, 11:48 AM
#32
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[QUOTE=Suzy991;10766712]That's not completely true... The introduction of the 901 was in 1963, but the first cars were sold in 1964. So basically it's exactly 50 years ago next year.
However, I don't think that is the reason why the car doesn't sell that well. I know a lot of people here on forums and also in the real world, that have canceled the car, after they innitially ordered it.
One of those is me. When I saw the first pictures of the Graphite grey car, I was convinced that this was the car I wanted. I already had an order on a C4S, but that wasn't locked, so I could change. I ordered the 911-50 and started waiting. One week before my order would lock, I drove to Zuffenhausen to see the car in person in the Museum and I wasn't blown away at all. It's not that both grey colors are ugly, but they just didn't do it for me. Plain black was no option for me, so I decided to cancel and go back to a C4S.
Regarding 911's being built in 1964, yes! But a big reason why 2014 is not the 50th year model is that none of them were sold with a 1964 model year designation, they were all sold as 1965 model year. You can't buy a 1964 911 today for any price, they don't exist while you can, if you are Jay Leno, purchase a 1963 model year, albeit very rare So, 2013 model year is the 50th anniversary car, not 2014.
However, I don't think that is the reason why the car doesn't sell that well. I know a lot of people here on forums and also in the real world, that have canceled the car, after they innitially ordered it.
One of those is me. When I saw the first pictures of the Graphite grey car, I was convinced that this was the car I wanted. I already had an order on a C4S, but that wasn't locked, so I could change. I ordered the 911-50 and started waiting. One week before my order would lock, I drove to Zuffenhausen to see the car in person in the Museum and I wasn't blown away at all. It's not that both grey colors are ugly, but they just didn't do it for me. Plain black was no option for me, so I decided to cancel and go back to a C4S.
Regarding 911's being built in 1964, yes! But a big reason why 2014 is not the 50th year model is that none of them were sold with a 1964 model year designation, they were all sold as 1965 model year. You can't buy a 1964 911 today for any price, they don't exist while you can, if you are Jay Leno, purchase a 1963 model year, albeit very rare So, 2013 model year is the 50th anniversary car, not 2014.
09-17-2013, 12:06 PM
#33
Burning Brakes
If you look at it that way, you are right indeed.
The thing is, that in europe a 2014 car is actually build in 2014 and not in 2013. So a Porsche 911, build in 1964 is a '64 car... Not a '65 car, although being a MY1965.
In the U.S. the cars are "named" after a modelyear, in Europe the cars are "named" after production year (or in fact the year the car gets its license plates) there are plenty of '64 911s for sale here. Those cars would be 1965 cars in U.S.
I have a 2012 Audi Q5. in the U.S. that would be a 2013 Q5, because it is actually MY2013, but got its license plates in november 2012 and therefore a 2012 Audi Q5. Normally not a big deal, but there was a facelift halfway 2012, so it's a different car compared to one build in january 2012 for example.
The stupid thing about this is that my car here in europe would have a higher resale value if it had got its license plates in january 2013, instead of november 2012, while being the exact same car.
The U.S. way is a more clear and easier way IMO.
Suzy991
The thing is, that in europe a 2014 car is actually build in 2014 and not in 2013. So a Porsche 911, build in 1964 is a '64 car... Not a '65 car, although being a MY1965.
In the U.S. the cars are "named" after a modelyear, in Europe the cars are "named" after production year (or in fact the year the car gets its license plates) there are plenty of '64 911s for sale here. Those cars would be 1965 cars in U.S.
I have a 2012 Audi Q5. in the U.S. that would be a 2013 Q5, because it is actually MY2013, but got its license plates in november 2012 and therefore a 2012 Audi Q5. Normally not a big deal, but there was a facelift halfway 2012, so it's a different car compared to one build in january 2012 for example.
The stupid thing about this is that my car here in europe would have a higher resale value if it had got its license plates in january 2013, instead of november 2012, while being the exact same car.
The U.S. way is a more clear and easier way IMO.
Suzy991
09-17-2013, 12:33 PM
#34
Regarding 911's being built in 1964, yes! But a big reason why 2014 is not the 50th year model is that none of them were sold with a 1964 model year designation, they were all sold as 1965 model year. You can't buy a 1964 911 today for any price, they don't exist while you can, if you are Jay Leno, purchase a 1963 model year, albeit very rare So, 2013 model year is the 50th anniversary car, not 2014.
Regarding the reason to buy the car: Definitly not for the money. I'd rather buy greek government bonds if I was after investment. This car will not hold its value unless you keep it for another 50 years.
I ordered the 911 50 because I love the graphite gray, whereas I don't really like any of standard Porsche colors. I am a big fan of the classic 911 and I really like the references from the 911 50 to it, especially the grill and the green digits. And I also dig the wide body without the light stripe on the rear.
I saw it and I knew: This is the car I want, this is the car I will have tons of fun with. Nothing else.
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09-17-2013, 12:39 PM
#35
Burning Brakes
63, 64, 65? That's quite a challenge for a simple minded guy like me. The 911 was launched in September 1963 at the IAA in Frankfurt. The 911 50 was introduced the same day 50 years later. As I take it, this is reason enough to call it anniversary model.
Regarding the reason to buy the car: Definitly not for e money. I'd rather buy greek government bonds if I was after investment. This car will not hold its value unless you keep it for another 50 years.
I ordered the 911 50 because I love the graphite gray, whereas I don't really like any of standard Porsche colors. I am a big fan of the classic 911 and I really like the references from the 911 50 to it, especially the grill and the green digits. And I also dig the wide body without the light stripe on the rear.
I saw it and I knew: This is the car I want, this is the car I will have tons of fun with. Nothing else.
That's the one and only true reason to buy a car!
Suzy991
09-17-2013, 12:57 PM
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The 964 Jubi is Viola, not Amethyst. Just saying, otherwise you could be in for a surprise when you go collect your new car
09-17-2013, 01:16 PM
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If you look at it that way, you are right indeed.
The thing is, that in europe a 2014 car is actually build in 2014 and not in 2013. So a Porsche 911, build in 1964 is a '64 car... Not a '65 car, although being a MY1965.
In the U.S. the cars are "named" after a modelyear, in Europe the cars are "named" after production year (or in fact the year the car gets its license plates) there are plenty of '64 911s for sale here. Those cars would be 1965 cars in U.S.
I have a 2012 Audi Q5. in the U.S. that would be a 2013 Q5, because it is actually MY2013, but got its license plates in november 2012 and therefore a 2012 Audi Q5. Normally not a big deal, but there was a facelift halfway 2012, so it's a different car compared to one build in january 2012 for example.
The stupid thing about this is that my car here in europe would have a higher resale value if it had got its license plates in january 2013, instead of november 2012, while being the exact same car.
The U.S. way is a more clear and easier way IMO.
Suzy991
The thing is, that in europe a 2014 car is actually build in 2014 and not in 2013. So a Porsche 911, build in 1964 is a '64 car... Not a '65 car, although being a MY1965.
In the U.S. the cars are "named" after a modelyear, in Europe the cars are "named" after production year (or in fact the year the car gets its license plates) there are plenty of '64 911s for sale here. Those cars would be 1965 cars in U.S.
I have a 2012 Audi Q5. in the U.S. that would be a 2013 Q5, because it is actually MY2013, but got its license plates in november 2012 and therefore a 2012 Audi Q5. Normally not a big deal, but there was a facelift halfway 2012, so it's a different car compared to one build in january 2012 for example.
The stupid thing about this is that my car here in europe would have a higher resale value if it had got its license plates in january 2013, instead of november 2012, while being the exact same car.
The U.S. way is a more clear and easier way IMO.
Suzy991
So in Europe, when you call for parts do ask by calendar year or model year? Very confusing?
09-17-2013, 01:51 PM
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Manufacturers themselves always use MY internally I think.
Suzy991
09-17-2013, 01:53 PM
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09-17-2013, 02:24 PM
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I've had 2 different dealers tell me a 911-50 would be near impossible to get. This thread makes me wonder if it's impossible for them, or are they just trying to set up a higher price for themselves.
09-17-2013, 03:37 PM
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09-17-2013, 05:30 PM
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Actually most dealers will be lucky to get more than one car allocation and judging from the current state of cars in the PVMS that I can actually see there are only 66 cars in works for the entire country at present. 200 dealers with roughly 500 cars being allocated for the US means some smaller dealers will get none and the big guys may get 3-4 cars. 
09-17-2013, 05:33 PM
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Actually most dealers will be lucky to get more than one car allocation and judging from the current state of cars in the PVMS that I can actually see there are only 66 cars in works for the entire country at present. 200 dealers with roughly 500 cars being allocated for the US means some smaller dealers will get none and the big guys may get 3-4 cars.
09-17-2013, 06:56 PM
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