Can I Get a 991 for about $70k?
07-24-2013, 04:29 PM
#32
Burning Brakes
I'm not sure that the choice of a new Cayman S vs. a used 991 is *that* clear, but I can appreciate it is when the question is posed in a 991 forum. lol
I don't disagree with the general logic of driving both and deciding. My problem is: the more I read the more confused I get.
I don't disagree with the general logic of driving both and deciding. My problem is: the more I read the more confused I get.
07-24-2013, 06:22 PM
#33
Burning Brakes
07-24-2013, 06:24 PM
#34
Racer
Thread Starter
I agree with you. I have driven several 997s and several Cayman S 2014s. I just haven't yet driven a 991. Believe me, I will do it. I just didn't want to fall in love with it if it was way out of my budget.
07-24-2013, 06:44 PM
#35
Three Wheelin'
Do chiboy a huge favor. Ban him from the forum until he has driven a 991 ;-)
07-24-2013, 11:47 PM
#36
I always advise against purchasing anything substantial that is a "stretch".
You obviously have your budget for a reason and should be commended for sticking to it.
As you well know, the purchase price is just the beginning of the financial outlay for these cars.
I would suggest waiting a year or so (by then the 2015's will be in production) at which point you'll have a plethora of 2012's to choose from.
Just my $0.02...
You obviously have your budget for a reason and should be commended for sticking to it.
As you well know, the purchase price is just the beginning of the financial outlay for these cars.
I would suggest waiting a year or so (by then the 2015's will be in production) at which point you'll have a plethora of 2012's to choose from.
Just my $0.02...
07-26-2013, 12:54 PM
#37
I had an arbitrary budget of 75k just 4 months ago. It was an unusually warm day for western ny in march. I had cayman on my mind since they introduced it at the LA auto show. I walked into the dealer and drove the boxster s as a proxy to the yet to be released cayman s. Car was superb. Sitting at the desk shooting the **** with the salesman, a fellow car geek, I could not for the life of me get my eye off the used 991 out front. We grabbed the keys to the black trade-in 991 with low miles and hit the road. Let's just say we were a bit giddy about having 70 degrees and sunny weather after a long boring winter and I managed a few 7k+ shifts from 2nd to 3rd and I was sold. Turns out someone bought that car before I could decide, in 2 days, for 95k. Lucky for me they received my current car, a silver 991 with similar options a week later.
My point is that although the cayman is a really really good car, if you get behind the wheel of a 991 a different feeling comes over you. That feeling is what makes the exorbitant price worth it imho. I guess another obvious take away from this story is that any car being driven by potential customers at the dealership has been thoroughly flexed. My vote goes to brand new stripper 991 hands down. Old stock would be ideal but those cars (stripper base manuals) are not as easy to come by.
My point is that although the cayman is a really really good car, if you get behind the wheel of a 991 a different feeling comes over you. That feeling is what makes the exorbitant price worth it imho. I guess another obvious take away from this story is that any car being driven by potential customers at the dealership has been thoroughly flexed. My vote goes to brand new stripper 991 hands down. Old stock would be ideal but those cars (stripper base manuals) are not as easy to come by.
07-26-2013, 03:48 PM
#38
Racer
Thread Starter
I had an arbitrary budget of 75k just 4 months ago. It was an unusually warm day for western ny in march. I had cayman on my mind since they introduced it at the LA auto show. I walked into the dealer and drove the boxster s as a proxy to the yet to be released cayman s. Car was superb. Sitting at the desk shooting the **** with the salesman, a fellow car geek, I could not for the life of me get my eye off the used 991 out front. We grabbed the keys to the black trade-in 991 with low miles and hit the road. Let's just say we were a bit giddy about having 70 degrees and sunny weather after a long boring winter and I managed a few 7k+ shifts from 2nd to 3rd and I was sold. Turns out someone bought that car before I could decide, in 2 days, for 95k. Lucky for me they received my current car, a silver 991 with similar options a week later.
My point is that although the cayman is a really really good car, if you get behind the wheel of a 991 a different feeling comes over you. That feeling is what makes the exorbitant price worth it imho. I guess another obvious take away from this story is that any car being driven by potential customers at the dealership has been thoroughly flexed. My vote goes to brand new stripper 991 hands down. Old stock would be ideal but those cars (stripper base manuals) are not as easy to come by.
My point is that although the cayman is a really really good car, if you get behind the wheel of a 991 a different feeling comes over you. That feeling is what makes the exorbitant price worth it imho. I guess another obvious take away from this story is that any car being driven by potential customers at the dealership has been thoroughly flexed. My vote goes to brand new stripper 991 hands down. Old stock would be ideal but those cars (stripper base manuals) are not as easy to come by.
07-26-2013, 04:12 PM
#40
Racer
Thread Starter
Ha! I was scheduled to drive one yesterday, but it didn't work out.
If I had known all it would take was a story about test driving a 911 to calm everyone down, I would have lied about it two pages ago! :-)
If I had known all it would take was a story about test driving a 911 to calm everyone down, I would have lied about it two pages ago! :-)
07-26-2013, 05:25 PM
#41
Instructor
If you ended up getting a 991, we should meet up sometime!! Would love to meet other Porsche lovers in Chicago.
07-26-2013, 09:56 PM
#44
I am bouncing around a bit in my car search. I love the new Cayman S, which I can get for under $70k with a sticker of $75-76k if I wait until they build me the right one. And I may very well do that for delivery next spring.
But I am also strongly considering a newer 911 with the same budget in mind. I have seen a number of 2012s that can be had for $70k, some of which are S models, but all of which are 997.2 models. I do not want to succumb to any more budget creep, but wonder if I can squeeze into a 991 for that money. I know my odds will improve if I can sit on my hands until fall/winter, but what do y'all think? Is it worth it to scour the 'net for a 991? Will I likely be able to find one in that price range? I am more than happy with a 6, er, 7 speed manual, and don't require leather wrapped carbon fiber rear view mirrors.
What are the more informed opinions here?
But I am also strongly considering a newer 911 with the same budget in mind. I have seen a number of 2012s that can be had for $70k, some of which are S models, but all of which are 997.2 models. I do not want to succumb to any more budget creep, but wonder if I can squeeze into a 991 for that money. I know my odds will improve if I can sit on my hands until fall/winter, but what do y'all think? Is it worth it to scour the 'net for a 991? Will I likely be able to find one in that price range? I am more than happy with a 6, er, 7 speed manual, and don't require leather wrapped carbon fiber rear view mirrors.
What are the more informed opinions here?
There was a day that that WAS new 911 money, but not today. Most 991 Carreras sticker over $100K. You will be hard pressed to even find a Carrera S Coupe, C4 Coupe or Carrera Cab that doesn't sticker close to $120K or more. 991 prices are getting ridiculous. This of course means that depreciation should happen pretty rapidly. I would not be surprised when the new-ness of the 991 goes away in a year that 1-year old used ones will selling for 30% below their original sticker. Best advice is to wait a year and buy a CPO that will easily be in your price range.
How bad are they overpriced? How about this. One of my co-workers just bought a brand-new loaded 997.2 Turbo Cab for $20K off sticker. It was sitting on the lot for a year with about 100 mils on it. He bought it cheaper than the sticker on any 991 Carrera S Cab on the lot. Is that messed up or what?
07-27-2013, 05:43 AM
#45
Three Wheelin'
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How bad are they overpriced? How about this. One of my co-workers just bought a brand-new loaded 997.2 Turbo Cab for $20K off sticker. It was sitting on the lot for a year with about 100 mils on it. He bought it cheaper than the sticker on any 991 Carrera S Cab on the lot. Is that messed up or what?
How bad are they overpriced? How about this. One of my co-workers just bought a brand-new loaded 997.2 Turbo Cab for $20K off sticker. It was sitting on the lot for a year with about 100 mils on it. He bought it cheaper than the sticker on any 991 Carrera S Cab on the lot. Is that messed up or what?