Chiboy

I am bouncing around a bit in my car search. I love the new Cayman S, which I can get for under $70k with a sticker of $75-76k if I wait until they build me the right one. And I may very well do that for delivery next spring.

But I am also strongly considering a newer 911 with the same budget in mind. I have seen a number of 2012s that can be had for $70k, some of which are S models, but all of which are 997.2 models. I do not want to succumb to any more budget creep, but wonder if I can squeeze into a 991 for that money. I know my odds will improve if I can sit on my hands until fall/winter, but what do y'all think? Is it worth it to scour the 'net for a 991? Will I likely be able to find one in that price range? I am more than happy with a 6, er, 7 speed manual, and don't require leather wrapped carbon fiber rear view mirrors. What are the more informed opinions here?

cmb13

Not just yet but soon......

Chiboy

Hey, what about you? lol

MerlinsGarage

No option 2014 991 = $85,200. Should be able to get 8% off MSRP with a little effort, bottom line = $78.2k.

duxsi

IMHO I think you'd be hard pressed to find a 991s for around $70k in the next year.
The 997's already took their depreciation hit with the arrival of the 991, and even they are holding their own nicely around the $70k mark.

You might get lucky and find a high mileage base 991 with no options, but add tax, tag, title dealer prep etc, you're back into $75k territory.

Surprisingly, the dealers seem to be pretty firm with their pre-owned inventory pricing, but then again you just might get lucky.

http://www.porsche.com/usa/approvedu...arlocator/911/

william_b_noble

FWIW I sold my 991 for under 80 some months back, so by now there may be some - it had 3600 miles and a 20 inch wheels and some other various options that made it really nice. You will find a thread back near the beginning of the year where I am wondering about the car and the vast majority of the respondents are accusing me of being a troll, evil and many other names. I have no idea how quickly it got snapped up.

Chiboy

Well, I did find that thread and have read some of it. Thanks for that hour's worth of entertainment, LOL. It is a shame when diversity of opinion is stomped on. Did you end up with a Cayman S? Are you happy with it?

MerlinsGarage

I think you are on the right track, a base 991 will be a better value than a prior gen 911. Ordering a no-option 991 is kinda like having the least expensive home in the best neighborhood.
You will have an extra 3 months to save while your ordererd 991 is being built, and IMHO purchasing brand spanking new is a much better experience than purchasing used expecially at this price point.
Bret.

Chiboy

I hear ya, but I just can't keep ratcheting up the budget for a car. It just doesn't make sense to me. I need to find a slightly used one without all the superfluous (or, nice but not necessary) options. In IL, sales tax on private transactions tops out at $1,500, versus paying 7.25% if purchased from a dealer. Every little bit helps. We shall see if I can hold out or just throw in the towel and get a new in stock Cayman S. lol

MerlinsGarage

Chicago,
I understand completely, was not aware of IL taxes. Wish it was that way in PA! Would have saved a bundle on the FGT.......................

yxc145

Maybe a early 2012 built regular Carrera with Manual transmission and over 10k miles and minimal options. That's before tax and title.

duxsi

I have yet to find this specimen. And as you rightly stated, that's before taxes. So he'll be aiming for a 911 in the range of $68.5k!
To compound his challenge, very few folks got an absolute base 911 with no options.

@william_b_noble - I was at a dealership where the owner was "offered" $90k for their trade-in and the car was on sale 48 hours later (after the all important dealer prep) for $106k.

Chiboy - let us know how your search goes..

MerlinsGarage

Don't throw in the towel just yet, since a new Caveman will be at the higher tax rate anyway, I suggest driving both and then decide. You don't want to learn later you made a mistake.

MerlinsGarage

Don't forget the difference in depreciation and warranty between a '12 and '14 C2.

Chiboy

I'm not sure why people are assuming that my $70k budget includes sales tax. Do you also assume it includes insurance? ;-)

In all seriousness, I am comfortable with a $70K car, plus fees/taxes, and don't mind a lightly optioned car. My Cayman S build would probably have 6 speed, full leather interior, Infotainment package, Comfort (heated seats) and sports steering wheel. Good God, man! I am even willing to stick with black seat belts! lol

We'll see whether patience is rewarded, or impulse rules the day.