trade in 40th anniversary for 50th?
07-13-2013, 11:58 PM
#1
trade in 40th anniversary for 50th?
I would appreciate feedback on this very subjective question. I have a 40th anniversary with 8000 miles in pristine condition. I thoroughly enjoy it.
I am thinking of purchasing the 50th anniversary edition and I do not have room in the garage for both or more accurately, I would need to sell/trade the 40th to acquire the 50th.
I suspect that the responses from the 991 post readers will be biased towards making this move but I would appreciate thoughts regarding the following:
1) "Collectability" of the 40th versus the 50th?
2) For those who have owned a late model 996, is the performance "night and day"?
3) Make the move or not?
Thanks....
I am thinking of purchasing the 50th anniversary edition and I do not have room in the garage for both or more accurately, I would need to sell/trade the 40th to acquire the 50th.
I suspect that the responses from the 991 post readers will be biased towards making this move but I would appreciate thoughts regarding the following:
1) "Collectability" of the 40th versus the 50th?
2) For those who have owned a late model 996, is the performance "night and day"?
3) Make the move or not?
Thanks....
07-14-2013, 05:29 AM
#5
I've ordered a 911 50 - and IMO, it is not a collectors car in terms of value conservation. It will lose its value as fast as a regular 991. There will be 1962 other vehicles beside yours, and as soon as the face lift or successor of the 991 will come to market, the request will drop dramatically. In switzerland, there a is a Sport Classic (edition limited to 250 cars) in perfect condition 20 percent below original price on the market. It does not sell.
I ordered this car because it looks perfect and drives like nothing else. I have very little experience with the 996, but the performance of the 991 is definitly like day and night. Go for a test drive and find out which one you like better.
I ordered this car because it looks perfect and drives like nothing else. I have very little experience with the 996, but the performance of the 991 is definitly like day and night. Go for a test drive and find out which one you like better.
07-14-2013, 08:28 AM
#6
It is my understanding that less than 5 of the Sport Classics came to the US and they were very expensive while the 50th Anniversary is well priced considering how it is equipped. I agree that the likelihood of the 50th being especially collectible is unlikely as it is not a unique limited edition line of cars such as a BMW Z8 or a Ford GT and there will just be too many of them built.
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07-14-2013, 11:24 AM
#8
Congratulations to 911-50 on your order. I agree with your thoughts regarding a night and day comparison. I had a brief test drive of a 991S and it is, not surprisingly, superior to the 996.
I am looking at all aspects of this decision to switch because it will require $70-80K in addition to giving up the 40th.
I do think that there is a higher chance of collectability or retained value compared to previous "special editions".
1) 50th anniversaries are deemed more of a milestone than say a 40th or 30th etc..
2) The 40th anniversary 996 was released very close to the 997 release and this diluted the impace of its release and limited initial demand. ( It took some time to be appreciated )
3) Other editions, like the Sports Classic", were priced far too high for the level of equipment offered. Although the numbers produced were far less, the value is diminished by the overpricing and I think this effects long term appeal and possible resale.
Ultimately, you have to love it. Passion comes with a price. I too do not believe that the valuations are going to increase but depreciation rate will hopefully be less.
For those ordering the 911-50, are you ordering PDK or manual?
Thanks
I am looking at all aspects of this decision to switch because it will require $70-80K in addition to giving up the 40th.
I do think that there is a higher chance of collectability or retained value compared to previous "special editions".
1) 50th anniversaries are deemed more of a milestone than say a 40th or 30th etc..
2) The 40th anniversary 996 was released very close to the 997 release and this diluted the impace of its release and limited initial demand. ( It took some time to be appreciated )
3) Other editions, like the Sports Classic", were priced far too high for the level of equipment offered. Although the numbers produced were far less, the value is diminished by the overpricing and I think this effects long term appeal and possible resale.
Ultimately, you have to love it. Passion comes with a price. I too do not believe that the valuations are going to increase but depreciation rate will hopefully be less.
For those ordering the 911-50, are you ordering PDK or manual?
Thanks
07-14-2013, 12:47 PM
#10
Congratulations to 911-50 on your order. I agree with your thoughts regarding a night and day comparison. I had a brief test drive of a 991S and it is, not surprisingly, superior to the 996.
I am looking at all aspects of this decision to switch because it will require $70-80K in addition to giving up the 40th.
I do think that there is a higher chance of collectability or retained value compared to previous "special editions".
1) 50th anniversaries are deemed more of a milestone than say a 40th or 30th etc..
2) The 40th anniversary 996 was released very close to the 997 release and this diluted the impace of its release and limited initial demand. ( It took some time to be appreciated )
3) Other editions, like the Sports Classic", were priced far too high for the level of equipment offered. Although the numbers produced were far less, the value is diminished by the overpricing and I think this effects long term appeal and possible resale.
Ultimately, you have to love it. Passion comes with a price. I too do not believe that the valuations are going to increase but depreciation rate will hopefully be less.
For those ordering the 911-50, are you ordering PDK or manual?
Thanks
I am looking at all aspects of this decision to switch because it will require $70-80K in addition to giving up the 40th.
I do think that there is a higher chance of collectability or retained value compared to previous "special editions".
1) 50th anniversaries are deemed more of a milestone than say a 40th or 30th etc..
2) The 40th anniversary 996 was released very close to the 997 release and this diluted the impace of its release and limited initial demand. ( It took some time to be appreciated )
3) Other editions, like the Sports Classic", were priced far too high for the level of equipment offered. Although the numbers produced were far less, the value is diminished by the overpricing and I think this effects long term appeal and possible resale.
Ultimately, you have to love it. Passion comes with a price. I too do not believe that the valuations are going to increase but depreciation rate will hopefully be less.
For those ordering the 911-50, are you ordering PDK or manual?
Thanks
It would be nice if you can get the 50th and still keep the 40th.
Special edition with limitation number will always be "special", something you cannot buy every time you feel like it, and now is the golden jubilee.
I'll say make the switch, I'll choose PDK.
07-14-2013, 05:19 PM
#11
Burning Brakes
I think the 50th will be a more significant automobile than the 40th, and certainly the 991 trumps the 996 regardless of whether it is a special edition or not.
I do have to argue (light-heartedly) with with your comment that you thoroughly enjoy your car... 8000 miles over 10 years?... whatever you decide, drive more!!!
I do have to argue (light-heartedly) with with your comment that you thoroughly enjoy your car... 8000 miles over 10 years?... whatever you decide, drive more!!!
07-14-2013, 05:58 PM
#12
Nordschleife Master
the 40th is nice, i say sell it and find someone who wants/craves a 40th and get a premium. the 50th.. is same price as equally optioned c2S so no real loss, but a great car..
in 10 years you drove 8k.. i'd say buy the 50th and plan on trying to double that number!.. behind the wheel is where you're meant to be in these cars... i hate seeing them with such little miles!
in 10 years you drove 8k.. i'd say buy the 50th and plan on trying to double that number!.. behind the wheel is where you're meant to be in these cars... i hate seeing them with such little miles!
07-14-2013, 06:42 PM
#13
Thanks 911sanantone, I'm totally excited. I ordered it with PDK. In my opinion, it is the perfect gear box. It shifts way faster and more precise then Walter Röhrl ever could. I have a lot of sympathy for those who prefer manual. But even if I see the 911 50 as an homage to the classic air cooled 911, I don't want any limits of the performance of the car. Classic looks, modern performance.
Think twice about selling the 40th. How much do you expect to get for it? How much will you lose on the original price, when you sell it now? I assume, its one of the worst points in time to sell. A major part of its value is gone by now. But it won't lose as much in the next ten years. Who know, maybe people start to adore those grumpy lights in a few years and see them as very exclusive. Furthermore, it looks like you spent more time fostering the car then driving it. No one will compensate you for that.
And even if the 911 50 has more chances to retain its value better than the 40th, there is no guaranty for that. Be sure you enjoy your car and never regret your decision – even if it turns out to be a lousy investment. Buying a Porsche is not rational.
I suggest the same as a previous comment: If your budget allows, buy the 911 50, keep the 40th and find a decent shelter for it. And if not? Keep the 40th and wait for a year until the first used 911 50 come to market. This would be a nice beginning to a Porsche anniversary edition collection.
Think twice about selling the 40th. How much do you expect to get for it? How much will you lose on the original price, when you sell it now? I assume, its one of the worst points in time to sell. A major part of its value is gone by now. But it won't lose as much in the next ten years. Who know, maybe people start to adore those grumpy lights in a few years and see them as very exclusive. Furthermore, it looks like you spent more time fostering the car then driving it. No one will compensate you for that.
And even if the 911 50 has more chances to retain its value better than the 40th, there is no guaranty for that. Be sure you enjoy your car and never regret your decision – even if it turns out to be a lousy investment. Buying a Porsche is not rational.
I suggest the same as a previous comment: If your budget allows, buy the 911 50, keep the 40th and find a decent shelter for it. And if not? Keep the 40th and wait for a year until the first used 911 50 come to market. This would be a nice beginning to a Porsche anniversary edition collection.
07-14-2013, 09:17 PM
#14
I would appreciate feedback on this very subjective question. I have a 40th anniversary with 8000 miles in pristine condition. I thoroughly enjoy it.
I am thinking of purchasing the 50th anniversary edition and I do not have room in the garage for both or more accurately, I would need to sell/trade the 40th to acquire the 50th.
I suspect that the responses from the 991 post readers will be biased towards making this move but I would appreciate thoughts regarding the following:
1) "Collectability" of the 40th versus the 50th?
2) For those who have owned a late model 996, is the performance "night and day"?
3) Make the move or not?
Thanks....
I am thinking of purchasing the 50th anniversary edition and I do not have room in the garage for both or more accurately, I would need to sell/trade the 40th to acquire the 50th.
I suspect that the responses from the 991 post readers will be biased towards making this move but I would appreciate thoughts regarding the following:
1) "Collectability" of the 40th versus the 50th?
2) For those who have owned a late model 996, is the performance "night and day"?
3) Make the move or not?
Thanks....
If you're a collector (which seems to be the case given the very low miles on the 40th), then ideally you should get the 50th and keep the 40th. 50th will be more significant than the 40. Also agree with 911-50 that now would be a hard time to get good money on the 40th.
If you're a driver, then you should drive the 991 as much as you can before you buy. Thing have changed since the 996--some may be for the better, some may be for the worse. If you value the "driving experience" a lot then you'll have to decide if you can live with the electric steering or the PDK.
07-14-2013, 09:34 PM
#15
Thanks for all of your input and for the light hearted ribbing. I deserve it. I consider myself a driver who likes to collect but does not yet have a collector's budget. If I can not get a fair sale price for the 40th, I will hold onto it for now.
I am curious why you think that it is a bad time to sell the 40th. I would think that with the release of the 50th, that it would generate more interest for an anniversary edition.
I remain unsure regarding manual versus PDF. 911-50, I do like your
philosophy that the 50th should pay homage to the past with its appearance and have the most modern technology. I will drive a 991S with PDK in the near future to get a better impression. Thanks again and I look forward to more thoughts/opinions.
I am curious why you think that it is a bad time to sell the 40th. I would think that with the release of the 50th, that it would generate more interest for an anniversary edition.
I remain unsure regarding manual versus PDF. 911-50, I do like your
philosophy that the 50th should pay homage to the past with its appearance and have the most modern technology. I will drive a 991S with PDK in the near future to get a better impression. Thanks again and I look forward to more thoughts/opinions.