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Old 07-15-2013 | 06:44 PM
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Buy a first instead of 50th for collectibility! Then keep your modern car to rack up miles.
Old 07-16-2013 | 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by 911sanantone
Thanks for all of your input and for the light hearted ribbing. I deserve it. I consider myself a driver who likes to collect but does not yet have a collector's budget. If I can not get a fair sale price for the 40th, I will hold onto it for now.
I am curious why you think that it is a bad time to sell the 40th. I would think that with the release of the 50th, that it would generate more interest for an anniversary edition.
I remain unsure regarding manual versus PDF. 911-50, I do like your
philosophy that the 50th should pay homage to the past with its appearance and have the most modern technology. I will drive a 991S with PDK in the near future to get a better impression. Thanks again and I look forward to more thoughts/opinions.
None of these anniversary editions will be worth that much more. Your car is likely worth low 40's at best. There are too many produced for that anni designation to make a difference. Plus the 996 is not well loved. Look at my sig, I know The performance difference from 996 to 997.2S was pretty significant to me. The 50th will be a huge difference for you as its the 991S plus X51. I'd say do it.

Now drive it. I'm not sure when you bought yours, but you lost money not to drive it. Why? Enjoy these cars. Unless you buy a GT3 RS 4.0, all of them are losing value.
Old 07-17-2013 | 05:38 PM
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Saw the 50th Anniversary 911 at the Porsche Museum in Zuffenhausen on Sunday. They have a special exhibit on right now. Very well done.

There are a few things I do not like on this car but the main thing is the 20 inch "Fuchs" look ridiculous. There is no dish to them at all. The Fuchs they had on the Sport Classic that was on display were considerably better.

The main problem I have with the Anni 991 is that it is a big car and the retro touches are better suited on a small car. I wouldn't order one until you have seen it in person. I am quite sure it will drive great. It just looks like a design failure to me.
Old 07-17-2013 | 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by 911sanantone
I do think that there is a higher chance of collectability or retained value compared to previous "special editions".
2) The 40th anniversary 996 was released very close to the 997 release and this diluted the impace of its release and limited initial demand. ( It took some time to be appreciated )
These two comments stick out for me. I am not a longtime multi-generation 911 owner, but the automotive press often pokes fun at just how many variations of the same car Porsche can come up with. You note that your anniversary model came out right when the new generation was being released, I'm sure marketing's hope was to pump up sagging sales at the end of the run with the anniversary addition. Although the 911-50 is coming out much sooner in the cycle, it's still classic Porsche marketing, i.e. making slight differences to the existing product to increase sales.
True collector cars have to made in very small numbers AND have significant differences to make them collectable. Cosmetic changes and 10hp bumps aren't enough. I say buy a 991 for its modernity, but don't expect a windfall with the -50.
Old 07-17-2013 | 07:25 PM
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If it were me, I'd trade the 40th for a 991-50.
The 996 was never universally loved for its looks and remains....shall we say "forgettable".
And 40th Anniversary was a bit of a stretch and a marketing ploy (as to be expected).

In terms of homage, 50 is a relevant Anniversary and the next should be 75th.

In my humble opinion, I believe that a MT 911-50 would have been the sweet-spot for a true future classic that paid tribute to its origins and its evolution. Especially given all the talk of an imminent future where we're facing PDK as our only "option".

Given your miles on the 996 and that you're a self proclaimed closet collector, I would look at the two cars and ask yourself what makes the 996-40 / 991-50 special to you. Ultimately the answer lies therein.

All the best with your decision..
Old 07-17-2013 | 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by rodsky
None of these anniversary editions will be worth that much more. Your car is likely worth low 40's at best. There are too many produced for that anni designation to make a difference. Plus the 996 is not well loved. Look at my sig, I know The performance difference from 996 to 997.2S was pretty significant to me. The 50th will be a huge difference for you as its the 991S plus X51. I'd say do it.

Now drive it. I'm not sure when you bought yours, but you lost money not to drive it. Why? Enjoy these cars. Unless you buy a GT3 RS 4.0, all of them are losing value.
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If it were me, I'd trade the 40th for a 991-50.
The 996 was never universally loved for its looks and remains....shall we say "forgettable".
And 40th Anniversary was a bit of a stretch and a marketing ploy (as to be expected).

In terms of homage, 50 is a relevant Anniversary and the next should be 75th.

In my humble opinion, I believe that a MT 911-50 would have been the sweet-spot for a true future classic that paid tribute to its origins and its evolution. Especially given all the talk of an imminent future where we're facing PDK as our only "option".

Given your miles on the 996 and that you're a self proclaimed closet collector, I would look at the two cars and ask yourself what makes the 996-40 / 991-50 special to you. Ultimately the answer lies therein.

All the best with your decision..
Agree with both. There's already rumor that next gen 911 will be PDK only and become a GT car...and that's believable looking at what Porsche is doing now with the 991s and the Turbo/GT3. Short of a future GTS, the 50th is the only 991 available now with MT/widebody/RWD. The 50th may be a bit more collectible than the 40th, but honestly the only two cars that may hold their value are the RS4.0 and the CGT.
Old 07-17-2013 | 08:44 PM
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If you want a collector car, buy a 987 Spyder and keep it stock.
Old 07-18-2013 | 02:44 PM
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Appreciate the input, I do agree that the there will be no "windfalls" associated with the purchase of a 50th. I am moving forward on the purchase of the 50th and will sell/trade the 40th. As much as I would like to keep both, it does not make fiscal sense.
I have learned my lesson regarding the benefits of keeping the miles low and plan to enjoy this one a little more.

Tangram - I appreciate your take on the wheels and the need to see a car in person. This will not happen with the 50th. The allocations will all be spoken for prior to a single car hitting North American shores.

NeoGeo and Duxsi - you both make a strong case for a MT (rather than PDK) for the 50th. I do not plan to track or sit in traffic so the MT should do just fine.

Another concern is long term PDK reliability.

Thanks again....
Old 07-18-2013 | 03:28 PM
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I find that the words "PDK" and "long term reliability" in the same sentence may elicit some strong reactions on these forums.

You have been warned.
Old 07-19-2013 | 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by 911sanantone
Appreciate the input, I do agree that the there will be no "windfalls" associated with the purchase of a 50th. I am moving forward on the purchase of the 50th and will sell/trade the 40th. As much as I would like to keep both, it does not make fiscal sense.
I have learned my lesson regarding the benefits of keeping the miles low and plan to enjoy this one a little more.

Tangram - I appreciate your take on the wheels and the need to see a car in person. This will not happen with the 50th. The allocations will all be spoken for prior to a single car hitting North American shores.

NeoGeo and Duxsi - you both make a strong case for a MT (rather than PDK) for the 50th. I do not plan to track or sit in traffic so the MT should do just fine.

Another concern is long term PDK reliability.

Thanks again....
Not so sure about that. My dealer in Toronto had one on display last weekend as part of a promotion. I would ask around.
Old 07-19-2013 | 05:55 PM
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Oh Canada
Thanks. I will ask my dealer.
I have not heard of any "road show" for the US.
Does anyone know about any US dealers showing the 50th?
Old 07-19-2013 | 06:04 PM
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[QUOTE=911sanantone;10608835]I would appreciate feedback on this very subjective question. I have a 40th anniversary with 8000 miles in pristine condition. I thoroughly enjoy it.

With all due respect, 800 miles a year can hardly be called "thoroughly enjoying it...." I would say sell it, and get something that makes you want to be in that car every other day.... Good luck either way
Old 07-19-2013 | 11:46 PM
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If you want a collectible Porsche, check this beauty out!
http://www.canepacollection.com/deta...-10531031.html
Old 07-20-2013 | 04:03 AM
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I had a well considered reply that took 15 mins to write but lost it due to Rennlist's impersistent login. Anyone else had this happen? 2nd time for me in 2 days. Arghhh!


Oh well. Long and short of it was save your 911 50 money, especially if there is any premium being charged and just buy or better still lease a C4S. Anniversary edition styling is not for everyone and Porsche will undoubtedly come out with a 991 Targa, GTS, Speedster, Black Edition, etc. (all of which may be collectors editions in someone's mind) followed by 911 60 and who knows maybe even a 55 1/2. My advice: use the configurator, talk to member 991 owners and build your own collector's edition.
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SanibelSpeed,
Just saw your link. Now you're talking. This is what I think about when someone uses the term "collectible".

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