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Old 06-26-2013, 08:13 AM
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I guess the confusing part for me with this prototype is that it is a disguised cab, but if the rear glass does not retract then why not the coupe back which has less of a 'hump'? Perhaps because of the shape of the glass and line? The production version will likely eliminate the seams from the retractable storage panel over the rear hump normally used to store the cab roof.

Also, notice that it seems to be a US spec model with the US version of the rear bumper...
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What's confusing me is why is there a Targa at all? It's not quite a Coupe and it's not quite a convertible and it's a pain to remove and install so for those who don't like the Cabriolet, why not just get the Coupe with the glass sunroof? I simply don't get it...
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Originally Posted by SanibelSpeed
What's confusing me is why is there a Targa at all? It's not quite a Coupe and it's not quite a convertible and it's a pain to remove and install so for those who don't like the Cabriolet, why not just get the Coupe with the glass sunroof? I simply don't get it...
The car looks different with the big rear window and the aluminium Targa Bar. I really like the concept and I'm glad they got lost of the rediculous and ugly big sunroof idea on the 996 and 997. finally there will be a real Targa again.
Btw... It was originally introduced because the U.S. Regulations wouldn't allow convertibles without a safetybar. Porsche came up with a convertible, with safetybar and a detachable rearwindow. Now they only had to find a name for it. As they named their models after famous races they came up with "Targa Florio" (famous race in Sicily). After some disagreements between Porsche executives, they left the "Florio"-but out and the car became the Targa. It was an immediate succes, untill the Cabriolet showed up, somewhere in the early eighties I think.

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Old 06-26-2013, 09:45 AM
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I still think it's archaic, despite its history. The 80's called and want their T-Top back.
Old 06-26-2013, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by SanibelSpeed
I still think it's archaic, despite its history. The 80's called and want their T-Top back.
I disagree, and would buy one in a second. It will have a better back seat and better visibility than the convertible, and better weather protection, while maintaining an open air feeling close to that of the convertible.

If it were out 3 months ago, it would have been my choice, but my prior lease was up and I had to make a move. It's a classic.

My father had a targa Corvette in the 80's and we loved it. I learned to drive on that car.
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Originally Posted by SanibelSpeed
I still think it's archaic, despite its history. The 80's called and want their T-Top back.

Nah, the old school targa is great. The 996, 997 targas were just oversized sunroofs.
Old 06-26-2013, 02:50 PM
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To each his own. I don't even care for sunroofs so Targas and T-top are even less appealing. To me it's ether a Coupe of a Cabriolet and nothing in-between. But, whatever floats your boat. As I said before, there's an *** for every saddle and a lid for every pot.
Old 06-26-2013, 03:06 PM
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I am sure it will be much better than the older ones, but I had a 1984 Targa that leaked like crazy when it rained, or when washed. They could never get it fixed. I will never get another one because of that. I don't see the big attraction to the Targa. If you are going to lose the top, why not just get a cab?
Old 06-26-2013, 04:15 PM
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I agree with those who just don't get it. Back in the 80s, owning a cabriolet meant a real compromise in many areas -- safety, structural rigidity, weight, noise, leakage, you name it. So the Targa made sense as an alternative. But now, those compromises are basically nonexistent. The Targa seems like a car without a mission.

Want open-top motoring, buy a cab. If you only occasionally want wind and sun coming through the roof, get a sunroof. If you want the lightest and stiffest car they make, order without a sunroof. These three options seem sufficient for 99% of drivers, unless there's something really interesting about the Targa configuration that I'm missing. I do look forward to seeing where they go with it.
Old 06-26-2013, 04:31 PM
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Noah, finally a voice of reason!

Some of Porsche's choices lately mystify me, starting with the 911_50's wheels, mirrors and paint choices. I sure hope they come to their senses and put the kibosh on this Targa nonsense.
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Originally Posted by Noah Fect
I agree with those who just don't get it. Back in the 80s, owning a cabriolet meant a real compromise in many areas -- safety, structural rigidity, weight, noise, leakage, you name it. So the Targa made sense as an alternative. But now, those compromises are basically nonexistent. The Targa seems like a car without a mission.

Want open-top motoring, buy a cab. If you only occasionally want wind and sun coming through the roof, get a sunroof. If you want the lightest and stiffest car they make, order without a sunroof. These three options seem sufficient for 99% of drivers, unless there's something really interesting about the Targa configuration that I'm missing. I do look forward to seeing where they go with it.
Except nobody can sit in the back seat of a cab. The seats are raked forwards in the 991 cab. My kids go in my car with me everywhere.
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Originally Posted by cmb13
Except nobody can sit in the back seat of a cab. The seats are raked forwards in the 991 cab. My kids go in my car with me everywhere.
That's why there is the Coupe but hardly justification for a Targa.
Old 06-26-2013, 09:19 PM
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(Shrug) I'm fine with them offering the Targa configuration as an option, I just don't think they'll sell very many. The exclusivity might end up having an appeal all its own.
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The car in the video is pretty fugly, IMHO.
Old 06-28-2013, 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by cmb13
Except nobody can sit in the back seat of a cab. The seats are raked forwards in the 991 cab. My kids go in my car with me everywhere.
The Targa will be based on the convertible construction -- and we still don't know for sure how the roof mechanism will work. But, personally, I'm pretty sure that there won't be more rear space than with the convertible.


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