Originally Posted by Sam Zamir

And if you need any little touch ups and stuff, I'll take care of it for free while we chat.

Originally Posted by Sam Zamir

Search for PACC's here:
https://www.porschecollisioncenter.c...x=0&submit.y=0

I realize it's not couth to post external links. But this is a link to the actual manufacturer (technically the importer - PCNA (Porsche Cars North America). Good luck!

Originally Posted by cdelrosario

Thanks for the most informative post Sam! Learned a lot & happily your in my neck of the woods! While I hope we never have to meet, for an accident, its nice to know your shop is nearby.

I may take you up on your offer of touch up though! lol

Originally Posted by socalsteve

Sam is truly a good guy!

I went to his shop for a small aesthetic mod on my 991. He treated me like I was spending thousands. He is also very generous with his knowledge...

I too am glad I live close and hopefully I never need him for anything else but elective stuff.

Originally Posted by Powereng

Great post. Kinda surprised at the amount of damage. I tried the Porsche link but was unable to find your shop anymore on the list. Unfortunitely there is no approved shop around me for 120 miles.

Originally Posted by mdkrp

Yikes! the closest PACC to me is in another state- San Diego.

Originally Posted by Sam Zamir

Whats up everyone,
I thought this would help some Listers, A lot of people are left stranded looking for a trustworthy body shop to take their precious cars. I wanted to post this thread to show the damage that can be caused from a simple rear end impact.

A customer came in for "Just a bumper Job" (his words) with some minor damage to his rear bumper on his BRAND NEW 2013 Porsche 911 :bawling:

Let's take a look at this bumper job.
Here is what pulled up...
(Damage to the Right of License Plate)


This is going to be easy right?...

Step one is to remove the bumper and check for additional damage...
This is what we found.

Impact bar has been smashed in like a Pepsi can...

So we further remove the bar and heat shields etc...
after proper stripping we realized the frame had damage... :yikes:

This being an aluminum frame Porsche requires replacement, which requires removal of engine... Let the fun begin...

Once the engine was removed we further inspected the frame and found some of the welds were beginning to separate.

Once the insurance company came out to see the additional surprises they approved and we continued to remove and replace the frame
We put the car on our Frame machine made by CAR BENCH (which is the same frame machines that Porsche Prototypes their cars with) this ensures that the car is aligned to factory specs down to the Millimeter (we also have Celette Benches)!
With the car on Jigs and the old frame out of the way we installed the new frame. (hard to see because the frame comes black)

Here you can see the Betamate seeping thru(ultra high strength glue) That bonds the frame.


Now that the frame is back in place we had the motor put back in
Time for reassembly!!

Yes... we started it like this. Yes it was loud as ****!
Out with the old and In with the new!

All the new parts on the way in.
Once reassembled and tightened up, we send it to Porsche to have them clear all the codes, Align the wheels, and quality check. (Porsche dealer must do this to not void warranty) Once the car is back in our hands we send it thru our wash/detail department
Walked in on her in the shower...

And now look at that rear end!!!!!




A whole lot of work for "Just a bumper Job"

So Wherever you are located here's some tips to get a proper repair on your Porsche 991 or whatever you drive.

Check YELP wherever you are.
Make sure the shop is actually doing the work that is on the estimate :read:
Have good insurance (IF YOU WANT OEM PARTS, READ YOUR CONTRACT!!):read:

And for you lucky Listers that happen to be in Southern California - Los Angeles.
If ever you are in a situation where you need some body work feel free to contact me



We take pride in our yelp reviews (see them for yourself)
http://www.yelp.com/biz/collision-co...nt-los-angeles

http://www.collisionbodyshop.com/

We are a Porsche Approved Collision Center (one of only a few in the country), as well as "Mercedes Certified" "Audi Approved" and "BMW trained." So basically very Renn-friendly.

Feel Free to call or email me with any questions regarding repairs or if you need an estimate in Los Angeles.

Sam
Office: 310.280.6000
Cell: 310.745.9373 (Call/text)
sam@collisionbodyshop.com

Originally Posted by spaghettiab

Sam - great post, awesome work :-). If the bumper was simply replaced without all the additional repair, do you believe a PPI would have indicated the extent of damage?

Originally Posted by Sam Zamir

Do you mean a pre purchase inspection? If you look at the 4th picture down, that's direct impact. The bumper covers that and you'd never see it (unless someone took the bumper off). The 6th picture down would be obscured by the engine. But that's what would cause a funny squeak in the chassis, off settings in alignment and potentially a major collapse in a second rear end accident (with the integrity already compromised).

So could you get away with selling the car? Yes. But you didn't buy a Porsche just to dump it after a small accident. You're probably in it for the long haul.

Originally Posted by fast1

Just one of the many reasons I never buy a used car. I understand for some that buying a used car is because of financial limitations, but with my luck I'd get a used car with some undetectable damage. So I'm willing to pay the premium.

Originally Posted by LexVan

That's a bit narrow-minded.