Originally Posted by jumper5836

originally I bought my first car feeling the same way and for the same reason with no intension of tracking.

Originally Posted by jumper5836

The suspension must be working if it's still being used to beat super cars. Unless I am buying a car for the wife the nancy boy auto will never be in my garage. I am too frugal and don't have the luxury of being able to waste all that money on a car made so the lowest common denominator can run with the big boys and I pay to drive my car for the enjoyment of becoming better driver not the other way round. With the rev matching technology turned on for the times when perfection is key to not losing lap time, who needs it anyways, with PDK your stuck with it, have fun winning at DE don't let those GTR on the track with you or you may get disappointed by an even lesser driver.

oh, I also apologize if I am a bit harsh with respect to pdk or similar gearboxes. That's just how I feel. I think it has ruined F1 and all lot of motor sport that allow it and I know for a fact that their will be lots of people snickering at the track about the guys ruining pdk. Nothing against you personally.

Originally Posted by holminator

Tracking sucks. My first two Porsches had so much rock damage from Summit Point (thank goodness no deer damage). From now on I only use company cars and/or contractor cars until the day I buy a track (only car)!

Originally Posted by Mike in CA

No worries, I'm not taking any of this personally; it's just an interesting discussion. BTW, rev matching with PDK is not a hindrance, and you can always shift manually, but all that ground has been plowed before in these forums so there's little point in revisiting it.

I spent 40 years driving manuals, some of it competitively, and I don't feel the need to prove my skills to anyone. I buy a car and equip it to please myself. My autoX friends don't give me a hard time about PDK to my face, but if they are snickering behind my back, it's their problem, not mine.

Originally Posted by jumper5836

I am talking about rev matching on a manual car. I know pdk rev matches up/down. But Porsche 7 speed manuals only can rev match on down shifting. up-shifting is where it matters and makes having pdk worthless. pdk cars are stuck being playstation cars even in full automode. Where a rev matching manual car can turn it off and allow the driver to do it all themselves.

Originally Posted by chuckbdc

You match revs shifting up? Do you double clutch? Why? Porsche invented the mechanical solution to that problem as an innovation in the 356. It hasn't mattered since.

Originally Posted by jumper5836

I am talking about rev matching on a manual car. I know pdk rev matches up/down. But Porsche 7 speed manuals only can rev match on down shifting. up-shifting is where it matters and makes having pdk worthless. pdk cars are stuck being playstation cars even in full automode. Where a rev matching manual car can turn it off and allow the driver to do it all themselves.

Originally Posted by jumper5836

please look up "flat shifting"

Originally Posted by pfan

It looks like a concept car that never got "un-conceptualized."

Originally Posted by jumper5836

Your talking top of the line Vette, which is still plenty cheaper then top of the line 911 Turbo S or GT3 RS and beat them at the ring. The mega expensive GT2 RS is only like a mere second faster round the ring but still slower then a Viper.

Originally Posted by jumper5836

please look up "flat shifting"

Originally Posted by Mike in CA

"Flat shifting" or power shifting is where you don't lift the accelerator on upshifts, keeping your foot down while you quickly disengage/re-engage the clutch and slam into the next gear. This technique has nothing to do with rev matching. It is tough on drivelines, something that rev matching, in part, helps to avoid.

Originally Posted by holminator

I have more respect for a Miata than a modern Vette. Try to wrap your head around that controversial statement.