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Old 12-10-2012, 09:27 PM
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I have a similar build on a C2. One minor question I have is whether the "exterior package painted" makes a difference. Have not seen it mentioned before.
Old 12-11-2012, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by meine911
I have a similar build on a C2. One minor question I have is whether the "exterior package painted" makes a difference. Have not seen it mentioned before.
I don't even know what gets painted with that option.
Old 12-11-2012, 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by rpilot
Please get the leather. Just ignore Gary and chuckbdc and nicoli on their comments about the frufru touchy feely natural leather . Oh, and if you have a wife, please budget a fortune for her to spend on shoes and purses worthy of the leather in the car.
Lol !!! Sighhhh
Old 12-11-2012, 01:39 PM
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I don't even know what gets painted with that option.[/QUOTE]

Front spoiler, side mirror brackets, rear apron (all versus standard black plastic trim). Noticeable, but probably more noticeable on a non-black car.
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Originally Posted by meine911
Front spoiler, side mirror brackets, rear apron (all versus standard black plastic trim). Noticeable, but probably more noticeable on a non-black car.
Thanks for the answer.

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Old 12-12-2012, 05:26 PM
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Well, adding wood trim and European Delivery ups the price to 144,960. 2 Grand for wood trim...
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Does anyone have any thoughts on the PDCC? Is it just for racing or is it practical for road use?
Old 12-22-2012, 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Jef96
Does anyone have any thoughts on the PDCC? Is it just for racing or is it practical for road use?
It's certainly practical, and adherents say it is more comfortable on rough roads. Personally, I think the reduced body roll on a car already so stiff creates an artificial feel. I know this is being said overmuch, but it's true that this option goes too far away from "the classic 911 feel" for my taste.

Excellence published a review in the last month or so that reaches about the same conclusion. Practical option, but divisive among enthusiasts.

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I guess the only way to be sure is to drive them back-to-back.
Old 12-22-2012, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Jef96
Does anyone have any thoughts on the PDCC? Is it just for racing or is it practical for road use?
It is totally practical for road general use, but for me not essential. Here is why.

At the 991 release event last February, a suspension race tuner friend (Daytona winner and builder a lot of pro race cars) extolled its virtue as: sustaining a more consistently optimal contact patch by dynamically controlling suspension movement and the roll center- as tho he was there tuning the suspension on the fly. So I tested both.

In back to back (PDCC vs Sport PASM) driving under dealer drive test conditions (mostly rational speeds) the effect I could determine at normal speeds and loads was none at all- it was comfortable and invisible. Perhaps I was not driving fast enough to test the relatively little roll at reasonable speeds in any 991 and the even less amount in the stiffer sport suspension. I did not find it PDCC spooky or off putting at those speeds, but, I liked the feel of the PASM Sport MUCH more.

I may have given up several seconds of potential at Nurburgring.
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That's very helpful, thank you. So, for everyday use, PDCC is probably not a wise option to take, considering the cost because it's only really visible when using the car at the limits - is that about right?
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Originally Posted by Jef96
That's very helpful, thank you. So, for everyday use, PDCC is probably not a wise option to take, considering the cost because it's only really visible when using the car at the limits - is that about right?
That's the way I feel about it, and many of us share that view.

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Just an interesting little tidbit that Sascha (the West coast Porsche consultant) told me about PDCC was that they found it actually made the tires wear more evenly, therefore necessitating a tire change less frequently. He said it's not something that Porsche officially promotes, but still was something they found as a nice side effect of the PDCC. Not sure if that's something that would influence your decision about it, but there you go.
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Originally Posted by Jef96
That's very helpful, thank you. So, for everyday use, PDCC is probably not a wise option to take, considering the cost because it's only really visible when using the car at the limits - is that about right?
I can't evaluate PDCC from a wisdom point of view. I just found find it insufficiently appealing to want to spend the money (or, in my case, not take an available car that I wanted).
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Hi DrJay - here is my configuration, it arrives in March:
911 Carrera 4S Cabriolet $117,530
P39 Premium Package Plus $2,330
P3A Burmester® Audio Package $5,010
Exterior Colors 1V Cabriolet Roof in Black $0
Z4 Basalt Black Metallic $710
UG Luxor Beige standard interior $0
636 ParkAssist (front and rear) $380
748 Electric folding exterior mirrors $320
176 Sport Exhaust System $2,950
250 Porsche Doppelkupplung (PDK) $4,080
640 Sport Chrono Package $2,370
658 Power Steering Plus $270
423 20-inch Carrera S wheel $0
345 Steering wheel heating $270
P06 Power Sport Seats (14-way) $2,320
844 Multi-function steering wheel $615
Destination Charge $950
Vehicle price $140,105

I am very interested in the Leather Interior but don't want to increase price any further and can't think of anything to drop. I said I wouldn't get PSE but changed my mind and decided to get it instead of the leather. I'd love the powerkit, that's going to be great. I'm excited for your build, very different than mine for a similar price, nice choices. Hope you get a lot of fun out of it!


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