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Old 06-27-2016, 01:46 PM
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Eduardo, thanks for all of your insights on Porsche's many customization options. You are truly a wealth of information and insight. I would like your thoughts on the espresso/cognac premium leather option. I was drawn to this premium leather combination several months ago when I saw it on a 911 at my local dealership and was encouraged by your enthusiastic comments earlier in this thread.

My only misgiving about this premium leather is the heavily perforated pattern that Porsche uses on the 991 seating. I have a 991.2 on order without ventilated seats and I want the premium natural leather in espresso/cognac. I sent an email to Porsche Exclusive and asked for a telephone consultation to discuss custom seating with fewer perforations in the natural leather. I suggested a pattern similar to my 997.2, which has many fewer perforations that appear to be much smaller. After several days I received a rather curt email from Personal Designs telling me that they are not able to change the perforations in the seats.

Do you have any thoughts or insights about why P insists on such a heavily perforated pattern in its premium natural leather regardless of whether ventilated seating is chosen? For a company that will go to great lengths to personalize a car, it seems surprising that this aspect of the car cannot be individualized. There was a recent thread from another Rennlister who after 1000 miles of driving a new 991.2 lamented the loss of the more solid leather in his old 997, so I know I am not alone in this desire. To me a high end sports car should have beautiful, glove-soft, solid leather seating.
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Originally Posted by famous shoes View Post
My only misgiving about this premium leather is the heavily
perforated pattern that Porsche uses on the 991 seating...
I sent an email to Porsche Exclusive...After several days I
received a rather curt email from Personal Designs telling
me that they are not able to change the perforations in
the seats.

Do you have any thoughts or insights about why P insists
on such a heavily perforated pattern in its premium natural
leather regardless of whether ventilated seating is chosen?
For a company that will go to great lengths to personalize
a car, it seems surprising that this aspect of the car cannot
be individualized.
Famous: I feel your pain. But the truth is that Porsche does
not offer this kind of variation from their standard norm. For
the 991, they have decided to do the perforations on all of
their leather seat 'inlays', whether you get the full leather:



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Or partial leather:



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You get additional areas of perforation on the side bolsters if
you order the seat ventilation:





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I believe the decision for the 'perforations' is mostly 'design' aesthetics,
then 'function' (to facility better 'breathing' of the leather inlays) and,
lastly, simplicity in the manufacturing process. Keep it simple & cost
effective!

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As you might remember, PAG also had perforated surfaces on the
previous 997 model's seats (seen here in my 'Signal Green' Carrera S):



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And I can show you examples of factory perforations on the inlays of
Porsche seats since the late 1960's/early 1970's, as the sport seats
on my old 1973 911T (Signal Yellow):



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And even on the bolsters of this vinyl factory original 1968 Recaro
sport seat in my collection:



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Bottom line: PAG has quite a number of outside vendors that are
producing some of their car's key components, such as the seats.
So for the sake of aesthetics (they wanted a uniform design on their
seats), function and manufacturing simplicity, PAG decided to specify
their seat's leather inserts in this pattern with the perforations set in
place, unless you order alcantara or fabric inlays.

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And it's another reminder even though 'Porsche Exclusive' can get
you some modifications, PAG is not like Bentley in Crewe, England!



In my visit to that facility in 2011, I was impressed with the number
of leathers customers are offered:









And Bentley offers you over 10 different variety of stitching styles:



But you dearly pay for the privilege. Porsche, on the other hand, chooses
to limit the customer's options re: the seat's design. And the same goes
for the other major German manufacturers such as MB, BMW, Audi, etc.
Sorry.

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Old 06-30-2016, 05:17 PM
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Eduardo, thanks so much for your response. I couldn't remember whether the seats in my 996 had perforations or not so very interesting to know that P has done this for many prior generations of 911s.

Very interesting pictures from the Bentley plant also and I do think that I saw some perforations in their leather. What about some of the exotic manufacturers like Ferrari and Lambo do they use perforated leather?

Despite the perforations, I am really looking forward to my espresso/cognac natural leather interior!
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Eduardo: Regarding the interior option "interior package painted"
Do you know if it's possible to have Porsche paint the interior trim a color other than the exterior color of the car?
To me, adding the exterior color of the car to the interior is a too much. And the usual aluminum color is all right, but, not much else. I've also backed away from the option which extends the leather to the trim areas.
I'm ordering Espresso/Cognac and would like the trim color to provide a bit of pizzazz to the interior.
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Originally Posted by fuddman View Post
Eduardo: Regarding the interior option "interior package painted"

Do you know if it's possible to have Porsche paint the interior trim
a color other than the exterior color of the car?
I believe they can do this by special request. It says so, at
least, on the US configurator:



Good luck with your custom order. Talk to a rep
from 'Porsche Exclusive' in Atlanta or Beverly Hills.

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Old 07-20-2016, 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Z356 View Post
Talk to a rep from 'Porsche Exclusive' in Atlanta or Beverly Hills.
Thanks to your advice, I'm communicating with the Atlanta rep now. Looks feasible; but colors are limited.
Thanks again.
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Default This 'Gulf Blau' Spyder is for sale in France...

SÚbastien in France just posted this in the 981 forum.
It should be an opportunity for one of you in Europe,
or the Middle East, to pick up this unique PTS 'Gulf Blau'
with factory 'Pepita/houndstooth' seat inlays 981 Spyder!




Originally Posted by Targa75 View Post
I must unfortunately sale that car next month...
Anyone interested please mail me
I am with the car all summer in the south of France then back in Paris in the first days of september. It is a great car and so exclusive !
[email protected]





https://rennlist.com/forums/987-981-...lue-cloud.html

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Matt Henry almost talked me into the Houndstooth inlays....but nixed it at the last minute
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Default 'Porsche Exclusive' - Latest Personnel Changes & Contact Information in North America

In charge:

Barbara Boeckenhoff
Manager, Porsche Exclusive - Personal Design
Porsche Cars North America Inc.
One Porsche Drive
Atlanta, Georgia 30354

Remaining in place:

Philip Mauney
Porsche Cars North America
Porsche Exclusive - Personal Design Manager
236 N. Rodeo Drive
Beverly Hills, CA 90210

Florian Truffner
Porsche Cars North America
Porsche Exclusive - Personal Design Specialist
236 N. Rodeo Drive
Beverly Hills, CA 90210


Newest addition in Atlanta:

Yana Nikolayeva
Porsche Exclusive - Personal Design Specialist
Porsche Cars North America, Inc.
One Porsche Drive
Atlanta, GA 30354

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Email Contact for 'Porsche Exclusive' US

Porsche Cars North America, Inc.
Porsche Exclusive - Personal Design Studio
One Porsche Drive
Atlanta, GA 30354
E-Mail: [email protected]
- By appointment only -Porsche Cars North America

Porsche Exclusive - Personal Design Studio
236 N. Rodeo Drive
Beverly Hills, CA 90210
E-Mail: [email protected]
- By appointment only -

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Melissa Witek left 'Porsche Exclusive' to go to
Mercedes Benz USA in Atlanta. Her last day at
PCNA was July 8th, 2016. Matthew Henry left
'Porsche Exclusive' Beverly Hills in 2015 to work
as Sales Manager for Singer Vehicle Design in LA.
Sascha Glaeser (the first manager for the US)
exited 'Porsche Exclusive' in 2014 to head the
Porsche Experience Center in LA. He left PCNA
in 2015 & now consults for Rennwerkstatt
in LA. http://www.rennwerkstatt.us



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Old 08-05-2016, 12:56 AM
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Originally Posted by famous shoes View Post
Eduardo, thanks for all of your insights on Porsche's many customization options. You are truly a wealth of information and insight. I would like your thoughts on the espresso/cognac premium leather option. I was drawn to this premium leather combination several months ago when I saw it on a 911 at my local dealership and was encouraged by your enthusiastic comments earlier in this thread.

My only misgiving about this premium leather is the heavily perforated pattern that Porsche uses on the 991 seating. I have a 991.2 on order without ventilated seats and I want the premium natural leather in espresso/cognac. I sent an email to Porsche Exclusive and asked for a telephone consultation to discuss custom seating with fewer perforations in the natural leather. I suggested a pattern similar to my 997.2, which has many fewer perforations that appear to be much smaller. After several days I received a rather curt email from Personal Designs telling me that they are not able to change the perforations in the seats.

Do you have any thoughts or insights about why P insists on such a heavily perforated pattern in its premium natural leather regardless of whether ventilated seating is chosen? For a company that will go to great lengths to personalize a car, it seems surprising that this aspect of the car cannot be individualized. There was a recent thread from another Rennlister who after 1000 miles of driving a new 991.2 lamented the loss of the more solid leather in his old 997, so I know I am not alone in this desire. To me a high end sports car should have beautiful, glove-soft, solid leather seating.
Go for it .
I have the espresso / cognac w/ ventilation, and the leather looks fine. It responds nicely to leatherique treatment and the leather is soooo nice. The ventilated seats don't need to be modified!
My exterior is in Navy w/ a black soft top.
Eduardo suggested that espresso/cognac is a nicer look vs. Beige and black . I agree and it's an upgraded leather as well. You won't be disappointed !
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carsnob, I have a car on order. Mine is a jet black metallic C2S with espresso/cognac interior. Build date is 8/25 with expected delivery end of September to early October. Thanks to Eduardo's numerous outstanding pictures and excellent advice I added three Porsche Exclusive leather options; XNS steering column casing in leather, CZW extended interior package, dashboard trim in leather and XHS rear center tunnel in leather. I am definitely excited; the pictures on the configurator look great.
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You will love it. The leather in the 911 really makes it. Whenever I see a base leather interior at the dealer's, it seems really bare bones and just isn't the same.
At the P. Factory, there really is a lot of care and attention and pride and it shows.
You'll appreciate the added quality and won't regret the added expense.
Perfect with the black exterior paint!
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Default 'Porsche Exclusive' - Latest Personnel Changes & Contact Information in North America

I have learned that PCNA will announce
shortly the replacement for Melissa Witek
(who left to work for Mercedes Benz) at
'Porsche Exclusive' in Atlanta.

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In addition, I am happy to report that
Sascha Glaeser, the former manager of
'Porsche Exclusive' for North America,
is now working for an independent US
dealer....Porsche of Beverly Hills. I wish
Sascha much success in this new position,
where he will be a tremendous asset to
anyone trying to order a customized
Porsche from that dealership!

Sascha can be reached at the contact
address & telephone below:





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Can you get the houndstooth inlays on a 991.2? Might make me change my interior choices........

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Can you get the houndstooth inlays on a 991.2? Might make me change my interior choices........
I believe they've only been available recently on special editions (the 50th and the Dutch Targa 991.1) and folks have had requests for houndstooth turned down when requested through Exclusive.

Worth asking though.
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