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Old 03-03-2012, 09:26 PM
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Default 991 gt3 will have the same steering as 991 base and s

according to the new issue of evo. they had a special about steering systems and they quoted franz enderle, porsche head of 911 suspension and chassis ...
Old 03-03-2012, 10:24 PM
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I'm just curious. What is the advantage of electric steering in a performance car?
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Originally Posted by SSST
I'm just curious. What is the advantage of electric steering in a performance car?
Less parasitic drag on the engine (due to the power steering hydraulics pump). Gives you around 5 hp for free, or better mpg.

IMO not worth it !
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Definitely worth it

Less hanging off the engine is more to the wheels
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It seems to work ok on the GT3 RSR...
Old 03-04-2012, 12:08 AM
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i think its great idea, pump always runs and always pulls off engine and rarely is used... new system only works when it's needed.
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Here's a question, if PDCC equipped and hydraulic pump for that is installed anyway, could that in theory have powered the steering, too? Or would the pump have had to be bigger, or two separate pumps?
Old 03-04-2012, 01:08 AM
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Originally Posted by AYHSMB
Less parasitic drag on the engine (due to the power steering hydraulics pump). Gives you around 5 hp for free, or better mpg.
Also allows for profitable options like lane-departure and self-parking, not to mention economies of scale with lesser Porsche models.
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Originally Posted by Alan Smithee
Also allows for profitable options like lane-departure and self-parking, not to mention economies of scale with lesser Porsche models.
If Porsche ever actually offers self parking on a 911, we'll know that the end of the world is near......
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Originally Posted by Mike in CA
If Porsche ever actually offers self parking on a 911, we'll know that the end of the world is near......
You kidding? It would be a huge hit in South Beach...
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An electric pump = excellent idea

Weight moved forward, minimize parasitic losses etc
(and they can still save the planet with the "up to 0,1l /100klm" lowered consumption. )

The safety-oriented-self-correcting-speed-sensitive-torque sensitive-pulse-emitting-electromechanical-steering -driver-assistance nanny = epic fail


BTW if you order the 991 with PDCC , the hydraulic pump for this system is fitted in the old steering pump's position..
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Originally Posted by SharpMan
You kidding? It would be a huge hit in South Beach...
Maybe, but it would still be a signal that all hope is lost....
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Originally Posted by SSST
I'm just curious. What is the advantage of electric steering in a performance car?
For the reasons most people buy a car like this - none. Porsche is up against some serious EPA CAFE problems if the next wave of regulations go into effect, and they are not allowed to average in with the VAG fleet.
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So game over, as there is no more steering feel on the 991. My RS is a keeper than. Probably use the 991 to tow the RS to the track.
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Originally Posted by M3EvoBR
So game over, as there is no more steering feel on the 991. My RS is a keeper than. Probably use the 991 to tow the RS to the track.
When the 991 GT3s come along and you have to wave by a train of them on the track at least you can take comfort in your steering feel.



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