Abby Normal

My posts were to provide information. I'm not a writer, so perhaps using typical language I came off as marketing the 991.

In future launches I likely will not even post. Got excited and went against my better judgement.

The difference is the car when the same driver improves their lap time by 3%. The realm of driver skill is a variance.

Rushman71

People are growing up and learning that what used to be a necessary trade off for good handling no longer is because of technology. Some people simply cannot accept this because they are stuck on outdated axioms that are no longer true. It's the natural reaction of humans to resist change. This is why we hear these exact same arguments every time a new 911 generation comes along.

Technology is what allows you to have the best of all worlds. Now we can have previous gen GT3 performance in a package that sacrifices nothing for daily driving. I call that a win win. If you want more hardcore performance, Porsche will surely be arriving with a myriad of models. Remember, for every GT3 owner there is a 356 bathtub owner that laughs at the GT3 owner's giant boat he calls a sports car. Hell, it's got "GT" right in the name!

Time marches on. Keep up or get left behind.

ADias

That is a predictable, and if you allow me, a bit condescending response. If that were true offerings like the Atom or the Caterham would not exist. FYI, the competition PCNA is aiming at is the BMW 6-series and the Maserati Coupe, as these are the cars they bring to dealer intro gatherings... Enough said.

Bill_C4S

One "advantage" of PCCB is there greater initial bite on street pads...

PCCB's "seem to afford" greater initial retardation - read more abrupt - even if the "area under the curve"/total elapsed distance is equivalent.

That is one discernible point of contrast.

Insufficient me thinks to install them....but YMMV

Rushman71

If you are looking to be offended, you'll be offended, but that wasn't my intent. There have always been harder core sports cars like like many models made by Lotus (ironic you mention the Caterham) that existed alongside Porsches which have always been meant to be real daily usable cars.

In fact, that's the raison d'etre the Porsche brand was born! So your argument doesn't work because there is nothing new about where the current 911 falls in the marketplace. It's always been there because it created that market segment! To think that the 997 wasn't cross shopped with more GT oriented cars before just isn't true. The reality is the "purist" market is very small. Plenty a 997 are driven by manicured mistresses and trophy wives because they liked the way they look and nothing more and yet they didn't immediately sell them because they were too uncomfortable for daily use.

Don't get me wrong, if I won the lottery my first purchase would be a Mac F1. There are far better modern supercars from an objective standpoint, but from a subjective standpoint that's my dream car. I understand subjective passion. That's what you can't argue with. But I know better than to try and defend the decision from an objective standpoint. It's an argument that can't be won.

Enough said.

930man

i just drove mine and its a great car.. I have had all the Porsches i could want . from Cups to tt to Gt2 and Rs's well never had a 928... but i can tell you this is a good car... comfortable fast lots of appointments...

so many people get hooked on these cars as race cars... they are just great sport cars! i heard so much BS from 996 to 997 im sure we will hear the same again... was it a 7:40 ring time? thats not a bad time for daily driver!

pedsurg

Don't let 'em get you down. I for one, appreciate your posts.
Reeves has an 991 S at the 48 hrs in Sebring. I was very impressed with the entire package; the admittedly improved auto tranny excepted !!

jack

ADias

I'm not offended and I know you mean well.

That is true and makes me smile.

But where we diverge is in the GT definition. True, 911s were GTs in '64. But a GT then is not what a 'GT' is today. Today's GTs are Astons, SL/SLS, Masers, and such. The 997 is not as bulky/busy/encumbered as those. The 991 is getting there.

Alstoy

I liked your post. Keep it up!

Rushman71

I think all doubts will subside when the GT variants arrive on the scene. I have zero doubt they will be amazing cars and the purists will be satisfied. However, if some form of PDK is offered, and I honestly hope it is, the debate will rage on.

I had a fully prepped 2100lb MR2 Spyder with a 2ZZ engine transplant that I still miss to this day. On public roads it is still probably the most fun car I have ever driven. As they say, it's more fun to drive a slow car (relatively speaking because 0-60 was still about 5.2 seconds) fast than a fast car slow. But I couldn't imagine doing with it what I will be doing with the 991.

I'm looking forward to having this type of capability always at my disposal all the time. This car will be my daily driver which means 15K miles a year with a 6 week road trip planned once I first get the car. To me, that's amazing. I really hope the Burmester I'm dropping a pretty penny on is as good as the one in the Panamera. I have heard the B&O in the Audi and the Panamera Burmester makes that seem like a joke.

I'm also still trying to find out if PDCC equipped cars have the same spring rates and damper settings as cars without it or if there is different alignment settings. I was flat out blown away by how good the car rode over irregularities, better than my A6 even, yet didn't sacrifice anything in terms of handling. I'm just amazed at how far technology has come and what it makes possible.

hlee1169

I appreciate the great information in your post, and it helps me choosing what I want in the 991. Please continue to share your experience, thanks.

NZ951

The rear lights seem to be following the path of older Aston Martins and Jags.

Rushman71

Your post was awesome. There will always be people who disagree. Don't let them get you down. Keep the posts coming.

unclejosh

Interesting debate - for now I think I will keep bouncing around in my raw spasm GTS and wait for the dust to settle. How 'bout a 991 GTS?

Viva le centerlocks! Dem be lovely and not hard to change.

Have fun drivin,

UJ