Notices
991 2012-2019
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

AGE OLD DEBATE: CARRERA V. CARRERA S

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 09-05-2011 | 06:44 PM
  #1  
Bruce G.'s Avatar
Bruce G.
Thread Starter
Intermediate
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 26
Likes: 6
Default AGE OLD DEBATE: CARRERA V. CARRERA S

Sorry to bring up a topic that has been debated in the 997 forum. In terms of $$$ value (based upon standard equipment), is the Carrera S the best way to go? Would it be better to option out a base Carrera or get the Carrera S? There is a spread of $14K between models ($82K V. $96K). Can anyone provide a comprehensive listing of the standard upgrades included in the "S" package. Thanks in advance.
Old 09-05-2011 | 10:36 PM
  #2  
Izzone's Avatar
Izzone
Nordschleife Master
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 7,342
Likes: 294
From: Florida
Default

Unless you track I cannot see why to buy an s
Old 09-06-2011 | 12:10 AM
  #3  
Tacet-Conundrum's Avatar
Tacet-Conundrum
Drifting
 
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 2,740
Likes: 2
From: Belmont Shore in Long Beach CA
Default

Originally Posted by Bruce G.
Sorry to bring up a topic that has been debated in the 997 forum. In terms of $$$ value (based upon standard equipment), is the Carrera S the best way to go? Would it be better to option out a base Carrera or get the Carrera S? There is a spread of $14K between models ($82K V. $96K). Can anyone provide a comprehensive listing of the standard upgrades included in the "S" package. Thanks in advance.
In the infamous words of Tim Allen, "more power".
Old 09-06-2011 | 01:13 AM
  #4  
Alan Smithee's Avatar
Alan Smithee
Rennlist Member
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 5,309
Likes: 305
From: Los Angeles
Default

The big ticket items are PASM and 20" wheels. If you are adding them to a non-S (they are standard on the S), the additional power begins to look like a bargain.
Old 09-06-2011 | 04:03 AM
  #5  
TT-911's Avatar
TT-911
Three Wheelin'
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 1,601
Likes: 25
From: Flanders, BE
Default

Also bigger brakes (6piston), not possible on the base car. All in all I think the S is the way to go.
HP is more than enough but these little extra's on the S make it to me a no brainer. And 50 ponies extra is not bad too.
Old 09-06-2011 | 07:52 AM
  #6  
911dev's Avatar
911dev
Drifting
 
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 2,650
Likes: 8
From: Atlanta
Default

Originally Posted by Bruce G.
Sorry to bring up a topic that has been debated in the 997 forum. In terms of $$$ value (based upon standard equipment), is the Carrera S the best way to go? Would it be better to option out a base Carrera or get the Carrera S? There is a spread of $14K between models ($82K V. $96K). Can anyone provide a comprehensive listing of the standard upgrades included in the "S" package. Thanks in advance.
If I were in the market, I'd only consider an S as my baseline. The power, brakes, SPASM, etc... make the S a better value. I wouldn't consider a new 911 without these options. I find the base Carrera too boring aesthetically; that's just me. The stance, brakes and wheels really make a difference. The 3.4L will likely be s a little short on torque as well. It can be suggested that one doesn't need the S if used only on the street, however, with that said one should buy an Accord instead of the Carrera as the Carrera isn't needed either.

FYI, Porsche's website will allow you to compare all of the standard features and technical data.
Old 09-06-2011 | 08:37 AM
  #7  
spourreza's Avatar
spourreza
Pro
 
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 686
Likes: 1
From: US
Default

Originally Posted by Izzone
Unless you track I cannot see why to buy an s
+1. I got a fully loaded base and .2 seconds faster in a 0-60 makes no difference to me. I could care less about PASM. And my 19 inch rims are big enough. If you want 20 inch rims, a .2 second faster 0-60 and bigger brakes, go with the S. If not, load up on the base like I did. On a side note, 20 inch rims, reallly???
Old 09-06-2011 | 08:52 AM
  #8  
911dev's Avatar
911dev
Drifting
 
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 2,650
Likes: 8
From: Atlanta
Default

Originally Posted by spourreza
+1. I got a fully loaded base and .2 seconds faster in a 0-60 makes no difference to me. I could care less about PASM. And my 19 inch rims are big enough. If you want 20 inch rims, a .2 second faster 0-60 and bigger brakes, go with the S. If not, load up on the base like I did. On a side note, 20 inch rims, reallly???
To each his own, but the S is much more than 0-60 times. With this logic Porsche should stop making any non-track car above the base Carrera. Let's do away with the turbo too.
Old 09-06-2011 | 09:12 AM
  #9  
GSIRM3's Avatar
GSIRM3
Drifting
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 2,605
Likes: 65
From: North Carolina
Default

Originally Posted by 911dev
If I were in the market, I'd only consider an S as my baseline. The power, brakes, SPASM, etc... make the S a better value.
So, is SPASM going to be standard on the 991S?
Old 09-06-2011 | 09:37 AM
  #10  
911dev's Avatar
911dev
Drifting
 
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 2,650
Likes: 8
From: Atlanta
Default

Originally Posted by GSIRM3
So, is SPASM going to be standard on the 991S?
I really doubt it but adding all of these options adds to the value (if that word should even be used for a Porsche) of the S.
Old 09-06-2011 | 10:33 AM
  #11  
jumper5836's Avatar
jumper5836
Nordschleife Master
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 8,536
Likes: 72
From: great white north
Default

There is something pretty sweet with that 3.4l pumping out 350 hp. I imagine it sounds much raspier and would think it revs up quicker then the 3.8 as well.
Old 09-06-2011 | 07:33 PM
  #12  
JamesT7's Avatar
JamesT7
Instructor
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 134
Likes: 0
From: London, UK and CT, US
Default

Personally, which is what any of these questions and decisions are, I would go for the Carrera S. It is what I am going to choose. I went to the new 911 website and watched a lot of the videos. They are very good and explain many things well. As for the options I will get I am not as sure about that.

Cheers
Old 09-06-2011 | 07:37 PM
  #13  
deijmaster's Avatar
deijmaster
Advanced
 
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 99
Likes: 0
From: Montreal, Canada.
Default

Originally Posted by Izzone
Unless you track I cannot see why to buy an s
+1

That's exactly why I bought a C2. More than enough to go around!
Old 09-06-2011 | 07:47 PM
  #14  
saeyedoc's Avatar
saeyedoc
Pro
 
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 659
Likes: 16
From: San Antonio
Default

New S:
Standard PASM (SPASM available)
PTV standard, includes LSD, PDCC available (PTV optional, PDCC not available on base)
Larger wheels and brakes
Old 09-06-2011 | 08:18 PM
  #15  
alexb76's Avatar
alexb76
Rennlist Member
 
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 5,900
Likes: 83
From: Vancouver, BC
Default

If only daily drive, comfort, better mpg, long trips, etc... is the main use, the Carrera is more than enough, specially in 991 form (as it has 19inch wheels which will be much more suitable for street).

Carrera S, IF you track, is more of a weekend car than daily, you REALLY use that extra power.


Quick Reply: AGE OLD DEBATE: CARRERA V. CARRERA S



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 04:46 PM.