991 US pricing released
#46
But I agree that Canadians are ripped off with new car pricing, by all the manufacturers. A few years ago, Chrysler admitted that they charge more in Canada because they can.
#47
I'm considering both but leaning toward a new S. What makes the GTS so attractive to you? I didn't like the look of the new car at first but it's growing on me. Base GTS is $103ish & looks like base 991S will be under $98. I would delete alcantara on GTS so that's no plus for me.
That said I am impressed with the 991 and will most likely have one in a couple of years. Either a 991.2 or a 991 GT3. We'll see. In the mean time I'll be enjoying the hell out of my beautiful new GTS and will be ready for my well sorted out 991.2 when they become available.
If you are leaning towards a 991, and it sounds like you are, then by all means get it, because it sounds like you have doubts regarding your decision. I didn't. You can't go wrong either way. Don't compromise if you have second thoughts.
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Good point! but... the differnce could be even less when you option out the Carrera with "S" standard items.
Definitely wheels would be upgraded on "S" as well as some other items. In 997, "S" cars came standard with Sports Chrono, Xenon, and larger wheels which is like a $4.5K upgrade, so the difference is around $10K between two cars with "S" options added.
Definitely wheels would be upgraded on "S" as well as some other items. In 997, "S" cars came standard with Sports Chrono, Xenon, and larger wheels which is like a $4.5K upgrade, so the difference is around $10K between two cars with "S" options added.
#51
"here we go again" comment is right on too !
I bet the 964 and 993 guys are just loving all the discussion's on which is better...
I still don't see a big enough leap in performance or looks for that matter, from my "old" 997.1 C4S to the new 991 to justify the $50k extra.
just my 2 cents (before the launch and seeing one up close or driving one)
Jason
I bet the 964 and 993 guys are just loving all the discussion's on which is better...
I still don't see a big enough leap in performance or looks for that matter, from my "old" 997.1 C4S to the new 991 to justify the $50k extra.
just my 2 cents (before the launch and seeing one up close or driving one)
Jason
#52
"here we go again" comment is right on too !
I bet the 964 and 993 guys are just loving all the discussion's on which is better...
I still don't see a big enough leap in performance or looks for that matter, from my "old" 997.1 C4S to the new 991 to justify the $50k extra.
just my 2 cents (before the launch and seeing one up close or driving one)
Jason
I bet the 964 and 993 guys are just loving all the discussion's on which is better...
I still don't see a big enough leap in performance or looks for that matter, from my "old" 997.1 C4S to the new 991 to justify the $50k extra.
just my 2 cents (before the launch and seeing one up close or driving one)
Jason
I know we all have to make excuses as to not spend money to get the newest and latest but I think if I had a 997.2 or older and the opportunity I couldn't resist this upgrade unless I had a GTS. Then I'd probably use that excuse.
#53
997.1 S went to 355 HP, improved the looks over the 996. The car was wider, and more comfortable for many drivers. The DFI in the 997.2 is great, but on paper , not a huge leap in performance. PDK is better than the TIP in the 997.1.
So, either way I look at it, unless you gotta have the newest thing, I would hold on for a bit longer and be very happy with 997.1 or .2 performance and looks.
So, either way I look at it, unless you gotta have the newest thing, I would hold on for a bit longer and be very happy with 997.1 or .2 performance and looks.
#54
997.1 S went to 355 HP, improved the looks over the 996. The car was wider, and more comfortable for many drivers. The DFI in the 997.2 is great, but on paper , not a huge leap in performance. PDK is better than the TIP in the 997.1.
So, either way I look at it, unless you gotta have the newest thing, I would hold on for a bit longer and be very happy with 997.1 or .2 performance and looks.
So, either way I look at it, unless you gotta have the newest thing, I would hold on for a bit longer and be very happy with 997.1 or .2 performance and looks.
#55
997.1 S went to 355 HP, improved the looks over the 996. The car was wider, and more comfortable for many drivers. The DFI in the 997.2 is great, but on paper , not a huge leap in performance. PDK is better than the TIP in the 997.1.
So, either way I look at it, unless you gotta have the newest thing, I would hold on for a bit longer and be very happy with 997.1 or .2 performance and looks.
So, either way I look at it, unless you gotta have the newest thing, I would hold on for a bit longer and be very happy with 997.1 or .2 performance and looks.
#56
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Your in a minority on that opinion. I've had the 996TT X50 , the look is nice and aggressive on the TT and C4S 996....but I doubt there is too many people that will agree the 996 was a better styled 911 than the 997, interior and exterior.
Your in a minority on that opinion. I've had the 996TT X50 , the look is nice and aggressive on the TT and C4S 996....but I doubt there is too many people that will agree the 996 was a better styled 911 than the 997, interior and exterior.
#57
EDIT: CORRECTION. You are right, Sports Chrono was NOT, BUT, the PASM WAS! So, my argument still is true just swap PASM for Sports Chrono.
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That said I am impressed with the 991 and will most likely have one in a couple of years. Either a 991.2 or a 991 GT3. We'll see. In the mean time I'll be enjoying the hell out of my beautiful new GTS and will be ready for my well sorted out 991.2 when they become available.
If you are leaning towards a 991, and it sounds like you are, then by all means get it, because it sounds like you have doubts regarding your decision. I didn't. You can't go wrong either way. Don't compromise if you have second thoughts.
If you are leaning towards a 991, and it sounds like you are, then by all means get it, because it sounds like you have doubts regarding your decision. I didn't. You can't go wrong either way. Don't compromise if you have second thoughts.
Due to ALL the new emission, sound, MPG regulations the next GT3 will be watered down, most likely faster, but less raw, probably quieter, etc... I was in Nurburging last month and those were RIPPING by at incredible pace and raw power/noise.
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