More 991's spotted floating around
#31
I like it , makes the 997 look short and tall by comparison (longer wheelbase + lower roofline and shorter overhangs on 991).
I love how people say it's a "GT" yet it is lighter with a longer wheelbase...will ride and handle much better plus be faster due to more hp, less weight. Reminds me of 1969, when the wheelbase was first extended and everyone screamed "That's the end of the real 911 !!".
wsh
I love how people say it's a "GT" yet it is lighter with a longer wheelbase...will ride and handle much better plus be faster due to more hp, less weight. Reminds me of 1969, when the wheelbase was first extended and everyone screamed "That's the end of the real 911 !!".
wsh
#32
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I think the biggest difference with the 991 is going to be comfort taking it further away from the sports car the 997 is and more towards a GT car which is something skl mentioned above. The instrument binnacle is identical to the latest Cayenne which, personally, I like. The prices will be pushed upwards and Porsche will make bucks on the options list which will be longer than it currently is; just take a look at options for the Panamera and Cayenne. The market is now being dictated by demand from the BRIC countries so we can expect to see this influence more clearly pronounced with every subsequent incarnation of the 911. (God forbid they should offer air suspension!)
I've submitted a letter of intent for an early 991 C2S as I'm sure, no matter what's said about the car, Porsche will once again come up trumps and produce an incredible car. The key question here is, what will they do with the GT3.
#33
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I think this movement started a long time ago. I was amazed at how small the 993TT is in comparison to the water-cooled 911s. It's tiny inside. This was a recent realization for me. People are fatter, safety regs are more stringent, gov cafe standards are a changin'... need to cram more stuff in it.
Porsche's in the business of making money, period. Nothing else really matters more so now than ever before. Sure it's cloaked, quite well, in the gleaming robes of motorsport and expansion into everyday practicality (PanCayenne), but without $s, they don't exist. They revamp their product line to fall in line with what their customers want and with global demand on the rise, it's really cool to witness the crazy expansion of their model line-up. Check out the porsche.com site. Check out future news. Inevitable and already happening at full tilt.
Save for the GT cars, they're all heavier, bigger, and quieter than ever before. I'm fine with this so long as they provide sufficient alternatives for those who desire a more sporting experience. But let it not go unrecognized that the 991 maintains just about the same weight as the outgoing 911 and it continues to offer more power while increasing efficiency by a not so insignificant sum. This is sweet stuff.
PDK is going to fundamentally change the GT3 car more so than the actual engine switch itself, imho. The engine being race-bred and reliable is both a product dev and marketing effort and really should be givens (or let's hope for the best).
I could be completely off base here, but what I know for sure is, it's going to be fun to keep up with the latest news from Stuttgart through sources like rennlist.
#36
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I think this movement started a long time ago. I was amazed at how small the 993TT is in comparison to the water-cooled 911s. It's tiny inside. This was a recent realization for me. People are fatter, safety regs are more stringent, gov cafe standards are a changin'... need to cram more stuff in it.
Porsche's in the business of making money, period. Nothing else really matters more so now than ever before. Sure it's cloaked, quite well, in the gleaming robes of motorsport and expansion into everyday practicality (PanCayenne), but without $s, they don't exist. They revamp their product line to fall in line with what their customers want and with global demand on the rise, it's really cool to witness the crazy expansion of their model line-up. Check out the porsche.com site. Check out future news. Inevitable and already happening at full tilt.
Save for the GT cars, they're all heavier, bigger, and quieter than ever before. I'm fine with this so long as they provide sufficient alternatives for those who desire a more sporting experience. But let it not go unrecognized that the 991 maintains just about the same weight as the outgoing 911 and it continues to offer more power while increasing efficiency by a not so insignificant sum. This is sweet stuff.
PDK is going to fundamentally change the GT3 car more so than the actual engine switch itself, imho. The engine being race-bred and reliable is both a product dev and marketing effort and really should be givens (or let's hope for the best).
I could be completely off base here, but what I know for sure is, it's going to be fun to keep up with the latest news from Stuttgart through sources like rennlist.
I think this movement started a long time ago. I was amazed at how small the 993TT is in comparison to the water-cooled 911s. It's tiny inside. This was a recent realization for me. People are fatter, safety regs are more stringent, gov cafe standards are a changin'... need to cram more stuff in it.
Porsche's in the business of making money, period. Nothing else really matters more so now than ever before. Sure it's cloaked, quite well, in the gleaming robes of motorsport and expansion into everyday practicality (PanCayenne), but without $s, they don't exist. They revamp their product line to fall in line with what their customers want and with global demand on the rise, it's really cool to witness the crazy expansion of their model line-up. Check out the porsche.com site. Check out future news. Inevitable and already happening at full tilt.
Save for the GT cars, they're all heavier, bigger, and quieter than ever before. I'm fine with this so long as they provide sufficient alternatives for those who desire a more sporting experience. But let it not go unrecognized that the 991 maintains just about the same weight as the outgoing 911 and it continues to offer more power while increasing efficiency by a not so insignificant sum. This is sweet stuff.
PDK is going to fundamentally change the GT3 car more so than the actual engine switch itself, imho. The engine being race-bred and reliable is both a product dev and marketing effort and really should be givens (or let's hope for the best).
I could be completely off base here, but what I know for sure is, it's going to be fun to keep up with the latest news from Stuttgart through sources like rennlist.
The next GT cars will be absolutely incredible!
#37
I don't care what people say... the car looks great, and is lighter, and will be faster.
Nicer interior, bigger=more room, faster, lighter, and more expensive . That will be my next car if I can keep my GTR that long, and PDK for sure... My bet is that the new Carrera S will be as fast as a .2 GT3.
Let's see.
Nicer interior, bigger=more room, faster, lighter, and more expensive . That will be my next car if I can keep my GTR that long, and PDK for sure... My bet is that the new Carrera S will be as fast as a .2 GT3.
Let's see.
#38
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I don't care what people say... the car looks great, and is lighter, and will be faster.
Nicer interior, bigger=more room, faster, lighter, and more expensive . That will be my next car if I can keep my GTR that long, and PDK for sure... My bet is that the new Carrera S will be as fast as a .2 GT3.
Let's see.
Nicer interior, bigger=more room, faster, lighter, and more expensive . That will be my next car if I can keep my GTR that long, and PDK for sure... My bet is that the new Carrera S will be as fast as a .2 GT3.
Let's see.
I bet the 991 will be awesome and I could use a little more room for my long legs in the car. The GTx versions will sure to be faster than the current 997 GTx cars.
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Speed won't be that relevant if the mess up the steering, and dumb down the experience. We all know it's a good bet that all iterations will be faster, but what will it feel like? In my experience, most generations lose something from the last, but the GT3s have proved an exception to this rule (at least for me).
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Speed won't be that relevant if the mess up the steering, and dumb down the experience. We all know it's a good bet that all iterations will be faster, but what will it feel like? In my experience, most generations lose something from the last, but the GT3s have proved an exception to this rule (at least for me).
That's only one way to know...
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Well if that was the case, we would probably be driving air cooled porsches
#44
I think this has some nice sleek looks - slightly lower/longer/lighter weight.
The basic Carrera will probably have undersized wheels & look a little soft, while the Carrera S with its lower suspension & larger wheels should look the part.
I'm interested in the GT versions & the motor/transmission combination; noise & overall feel...
There's no doughting that it will be fast (look at the 2010 911 Turbo with PDK).
Overall Prediction: it will sell like hot cakes!
The basic Carrera will probably have undersized wheels & look a little soft, while the Carrera S with its lower suspension & larger wheels should look the part.
I'm interested in the GT versions & the motor/transmission combination; noise & overall feel...
There's no doughting that it will be fast (look at the 2010 911 Turbo with PDK).
Overall Prediction: it will sell like hot cakes!
#45
I wonder what they are gonna do with wheel sizes. If I recall correctly they were talking about 19 standard and 20 optional. What with the gt3 in a couple of years? 20" semislick tires?