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Old 01-27-2010, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by alexb76
rear is hard to imagine
I was shocked too but if you get picture in hi res you`ll see how rear lights curve under that ugly tail, so all that entire rear structure is just a huge piece of duct tape over missing rear lid.

but it seems like rear end of this car is exactly same as on 997.2/997.1.
Old 01-27-2010, 10:24 AM
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Old 01-27-2010, 10:27 AM
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Old 01-27-2010, 02:56 PM
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Rear tires look to be a bit less wide than the current 997s, or is it just the pictures?
Old 01-27-2010, 03:10 PM
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Looks like some sort of panorama roof or large sunroof, but not a Targa...note the seam across the roof ahead of the rear window.

This is definitely a new car; the wheelbase and track appear to have increased, and weight is expected to decrease to comply with EU and US upcoming emissions regs, so there must be revised underpinnings.
Old 01-27-2010, 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by NinetyOneC2
I agree with you regarding preference. It's just that under the skin not as much changed as people think that's all.

The change from 993 to 996 was a completely new car. Not so much from 996 to 997.

Similarly, I don't think Porsche will make THAT drastic a change from 997 to 991. Sure the body will be all new (vs 997.1/997.2) and likely the interior too but under the skin...
This can be said of just about every new iteration of the 911 since 1963. The only exception has been the dramatic change from 993 to 996. It maybe another decade before we see such a revolutionary change again.

I see the change from 996 to 997 as similar to the change from 964 to 993. As for the 991, yes just another evolution of what Porsche started with the 996.
Old 01-27-2010, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Rambler358
Rear tires look to be a bit less wide than the current 997s, or is it just the pictures?
Probably 'cause they are snow tires.
Old 01-27-2010, 05:55 PM
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Is that the new IPad on the dash in the above pic? Kidding aside, maybe those i
side intakes are cause the radiators have been moved to the back since wheelbase is longer and front overhang is shorter!
Old 01-27-2010, 07:18 PM
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Porsche is perhaps better at this than just about anyone. In most cases cars are launched, receive a mid-model refresh, then an extensive updating/re-engineering, then a mid-model, rinse and repeat.

In some cases though (mostly with Japanese brands) they extensively re-engineer the cars at 5-6 year intervals to the point they are arguably "new" in nearly every respect. You'd think other companies would learn from Porsche's profitable approach to refinement not to mention the benefit it yields in perfecting technologies.

Of course they've also let it go to long in the past which has led to vehicles that are arguably less competitive within their set. Less of a problem for Porsche because of the power of the bramd and all our love for it.

Originally Posted by Mspeedster
This can be said of just about every new iteration of the 911 since 1963. The only exception has been the dramatic change from 993 to 996. It maybe another decade before we see such a revolutionary change again.

I see the change from 996 to 997 as similar to the change from 964 to 993. As for the 991, yes just another evolution of what Porsche started with the 996.
Old 01-27-2010, 07:46 PM
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Looks to me like a mid-engine 911. Nah. Heresy, you say?
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Originally Posted by utkinpol
I was shocked too but if you get picture in hi res you`ll see how rear lights curve under that ugly tail, so all that entire rear structure is just a huge piece of duct tape over missing rear lid.

but it seems like rear end of this car is exactly same as on 997.2/997.1.
Actually the rear lights looks like 997.1! Look at the larger pic, no LED in the rear!!! probably only for the prototype they used those... which means rear should be shaped similarly.
Old 01-27-2010, 08:01 PM
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Mid engined:
No rear seats
Frunk and trunk
No AWD ? No need ?
Just saying ...
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I don't care for that side profile - and it will probably be as shown since not much camo there, if any.

Look at Bijan's avatar above - nearly straight line from front fender to the rear and certainly through the door. Compare that to the curvy swoop in the spy shots. I preferred the straight tunnel from headlamp back of the 993, and this is moving away from that look.

Glad I have my car. If those pics are correct, I'll be staying pat until they figure out - *again* - that the "New Coke" thing is not a great idea. Gives me 996 deja vu.

Maybe when that funky bra on the front comes off and the lamps are fully exposed, it will come together...

I gotta get one of those cool wings for the rear though.
Old 01-29-2010, 02:31 AM
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Yeah. Look at the location of the side-view mirrors. Not like that on the 997.
No... but they are like 993s!
Old 01-29-2010, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by niche
No... but they are like 993s!
If the whole thing looked like the 993, that would be perfect. Every time I see that RUF Turbo of yours,...well same feeling I get from THPorsche's avatar.


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