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Old Oct 12, 2023 | 10:03 PM
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I’ve done some research and can’t find a definite answer so looking for that here.

Do I need to have a 120 to 12v converter connected to the obd port on my 991.2 to prevent loss of settings, etc. while changing out the main battery?

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Old Oct 12, 2023 | 10:55 PM
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I changed my battery with no loss of settings. I did it quickly. If you're going to another heavy AGM battery have an assistant because of the weight of the battery. A long piece of wood through the battery straps allows you and your assistant to stand at each side of the car to lift it out and replace it quickly.
There's a simple device you can purchase at an auto parts store, one end plugs into your cigarette lighter socket and the other end has plugs for a 9V battery. Maintains a 9V charge to the car when the battery is out. A further safeguard for keeping your settings. If you can afford the cost of a lithium battery you can lose 40lbs. from the weight of your car. That is what I did.

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Old Oct 12, 2023 | 10:58 PM
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No need. Radio settings will remain-you will have to reset the window auto up and down settings.
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Old Oct 13, 2023 | 04:55 AM
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If one changes from AGM to Lithium ion, do you need to change settings via two way OBD device?
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Old Oct 13, 2023 | 09:20 AM
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Theres some controversy with powering your car without a battery in it.

Theory being the battery acts as a filter smoothing out any voltage fluctuations. Without that protection you risk smoking some sensitive electronics.



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Old Oct 13, 2023 | 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by RennListUser01
If one changes from AGM to Lithium ion, do you need to change settings via two way OBD device?
I've had an Antigravity brand battery for a year. No need to change settings. There is charging protection built into the battery. Lots on rennlist about their batteries. Their website is very informative.
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Old Oct 13, 2023 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Kilo Papa
I’ve done some research and can’t find a definite answer so looking for that here.

Do I need to have a 120 to 12v converter connected to the obd port on my 991.2 to prevent loss of settings, etc. while changing out the main battery?
Some companies make a 9v and 12v ODB2 connectors (powered by a 9v battery or 12v battery) that you can put on your ODB port to retain most the setting. I would use a 12v one. On Porsches it can be hit and miss on losing setting, and I absolutely know this because I have done about 50 battery changes on a 2016 GT3RS when we were testing all our batteries in the Car. For example sometimes I would change a battery and would not lose radio setting , sometimes I did, some times I would not get flags after changing a battery... other times I did and there was really no rhyme or reason since I did the same change most the times within minutes. But I did find if I keep the car battery terminals energized while changing out the battery I would not have any issues with any losses or flags... but that was sort of a pain to keep power to the Cars terminals because you need to tape them on and make sure your positive terminal is not grounding out on anything. I rigged some smaller alligator clamps and used a motorcycle batttery... but soon stopped doing it since it was a hassle, but it does allow for the truest way to not have any losses.
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Old Oct 13, 2023 | 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by RennListUser01
If one changes from AGM to Lithium ion, do you need to change settings via two way OBD device?
No, you don't need to reprogram to lithium for a Lithium Battery install in a 991, it is a direct swap as STRAKA stated above. THe reason for this is that on the 991s the Lithium Setting for the PIWIS maxes out at 13.8v which is too low unless you are only Tracking or Racing. They set this Lithium setting in the 991s at that time since they offered a Lithium Racing Battery option. But our Battery works best with their AGM setting since it charges it fully, whereas the Porsche Lithium Settings in the 991 the charging profile is set to low at 13.8v... but that setting is fine IF you only track your car. track.
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Originally Posted by Kilo Papa
I’ve done some research and can’t find a definite answer so looking for that here.

Do I need to have a 120 to 12v converter connected to the obd port on my 991.2 to prevent loss of settings, etc. while changing out the main battery?
I swapped out to a new AGM battery (there are three sizes for our cars, I got the largest because that's what was locally available and other factors were more important to me than weight). I did not have power connected during the swap and had zero issues. I also programmed the car for the new battery, something I'm still not sure is really necessary (see the many threads about this).
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Old Oct 13, 2023 | 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Holger B
I swapped out to a new AGM battery (there are three sizes for our cars, I got the largest because that's what was locally available and other factors were more important to me than weight). I did not have power connected during the swap and had zero issues. I also programmed the car for the new battery, something I'm still not sure is really necessary (see the many threads about this).
Thanks to all for your responses.

Seems most say no need to run aux power while changing the battery. I was planning to simply plug the ctek into the 12v power outlet until I read abt the possibility of frying some component by providing direct power without the battery to modulate it. While I need to think about that notion a bit more, I’ll probably swap it out without any aux power like I have done many times on other cars.

For those of you that did a direct swap for another AGM, which is what I plan to do, 2 quick questions: (and I AM aware of the discussion here about whether entering the new battery info into the pcm is nescessary)
1- did you enter the new battery info into the system (even though you hafta lie to it re SN, model etc., if you buy non Ppart)
2 Did you swap for a similar size battery or a smaller agm version with similar power specs?
Thanks for the input.
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Originally Posted by JimEb
Theres some controversy with powering your car without a battery in it.
Not an issue as long as the car is not running and you are powering it with a DC source.
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Old Oct 13, 2023 | 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by straka
There's a simple device you can purchase at an auto parts store, one end plugs into your cigarette lighter socket and the other end has plugs for a 9V battery. Maintains a 9V charge to the car when the battery is out. A further safeguard for keeping your settings.
All I know is the cigarette lighter switches OFF after 6 minutes. Will that still work with that device connected? I have that device as well but I have never used it. My damn factory installed batteries last the life of my car.

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If you can afford the cost of a lithium battery you can lose 40lbs. from the weight of your car.
But $1200 vs maybe $250 or less for an AGM. If weight is that important, fill your boots, but it won't last any longer than an acid battery.
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Old Oct 13, 2023 | 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by IXLR8
All I know is the cigarette lighter switches OFF after 6 minutes. Will that still work with that device connected? I have that device as well but I have never used it. My damn factory installed batteries last the life of my car.



But $1200 vs maybe $250 or less for an AGM. If weight is that important, fill your boots, but it won't last any longer than an acid battery.
There are frequent sales at Antigravity. I think the holiday / Black Friday sales are coming soon. My lithium battery cost about $750. My Porsche AGM battery lasted 5 yrs.
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Old Oct 13, 2023 | 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by straka
There are frequent sales at Antigravity. I think the holiday / Black Friday sales are coming soon. My lithium battery cost about $750. My Porsche AGM battery lasted 5 yrs.
Good to know, thanks. I’m going back with an AGM.
My current AGM is at 5yrs and showing no sign of weakness but I’d like to swap it now and get that box checked off.
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Old Oct 13, 2023 | 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by straka
There are frequent sales at Antigravity. I think the holiday / Black Friday sales are coming soon. My lithium battery cost about $750. My Porsche AGM battery lasted 5 yrs.
So I've heard/read but I'll be replacing my factory battery with the same group size, a H7 or group 94R I believe it is. And that one goes for a whopping $1200 at AG. I'll stick to another AGM for under $250. I'm sitting at 8.5 years so far with the factory battery and hope to make 10.

I'm not worried about weight and don't want to further upset an already tail heavy bias.
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