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Old 08-24-2024, 06:14 PM
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@supercroc
When you mention "disassembly of the motorized wing" is the wing completely disabled,
or can it still be raise by the console button?
Coding out the auto activation is easily done.

Just wondering about access under duck tail for service and bumper skin removal.
Old 08-24-2024, 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by InTgr8r
@supercroc
When you mention "disassembly of the motorized wing" is the wing completely disabled,
or can it still be raise by the console button?
Coding out the auto activation is easily done.

Just wondering about access under duck tail for service and bumper skin removal.
This Ducktail will attach to the existing Wing base piece. Felt this was the best way to go for several reasons. The wing assembly consists of three components 1. base, 2.motor and raising elements and 3. the wing with included brake light. The motor and raising assembly are separated from the base which retains its attachment points to rear structure of car. All existing procedures for bumper cover removal, light change etc. are unchanged. Attachment of the Ducktail is taken from the 991.1 with it sliding into clips at the rear and bolting down at the front. The 991.1 required a new base for the Ducktail.
You could repurpose the console button for "Ejection Seat" a la James Bond's DB5.

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Old 08-24-2024, 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by InTgr8r
@supercroc
When you mention "disassembly of the motorized wing" is the wing completely disabled,
or can it still be raise by the console button?
Coding out the auto activation is easily done.

Just wondering about access under duck tail for service and bumper skin removal.
This Ducktail will attach to the existing Wing base piece. Felt this was the best way to go for several reasons. The wing assembly consists of three components 1. base, 2.motor and raising elements and 3. the wing with included brake light. The motor and raising assembly are separated from the base which retains its attachment points to rear structure of car. All existing procedures for bumper cover removal, light change etc. are unchanged. Attachment of the Ducktail is taken from the 991.1 with it sliding into clips fabricated to integrate with the base at the rear and bolting down (two bolts) at the front. The bolts are covered when the engine grill is down. The 991.1 required a new base for the Ducktail.
You could repurpose the console button for "Ejection Seat" a la James Bond's DB5.
Am currently looking closely (literally) at the front air shutter assembly with the idea of making it go away (like GTS).
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Old 08-24-2024, 10:39 PM
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Great stuff!!
I love hearing about details like this.
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Gunther duck

Carbon scoop


What we need is a ducktail like this one that has the carbon scoop for extra air flow.
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Old 08-27-2024, 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by supercroc
I had the same experience, so after 5 and a half years of nagging, I finally decided to take the project on.

Met with the Composites company developing a 991.2 Ducktail on Friday. The molds should be under construction soon.

Picture is 3D printed model made from 3D scan derived design.


3D printed model made to do final refinement on prior to production of final molds.

As a bit of market survey, what would preferences be between: 1. Clear Carbon Fiber, 2. Carbon Fiber in primer or 3. Fiberglass in primer for $250 less than Carbon Fiber pricing (currently undetermined)?

As currently proposed this Ducktail would use the existing baseplate and center mounted brake light which would require disassembly of the motorized wing. The disassembly took me 30 minutes the first time I did it.
The alternative would be to source the baseplate and light from a recycler.

Updates in the not-too-distant future.
For mounting, I wonder if the 991.1 OE ducktail baseplate would work for. Then you wouldn’t have to disassemble OE mechanical spoiler.

Its only like a $200 part

The person I sold my 991.1 OE ducktail kit to installed it on a 991.2 GT3 successfully





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Old 08-29-2024, 01:03 AM
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Originally Posted by supercroc
I had the same experience, so after 5 and a half years of nagging, I finally decided to take the project on.

Met with the Composites company developing a 991.2 Ducktail on Friday. The molds should be under construction soon.

Picture is 3D printed model made from 3D scan derived design.


3D printed model made to do final refinement on prior to production of final molds.

As a bit of market survey, what would preferences be between: 1. Clear Carbon Fiber, 2. Carbon Fiber in primer or 3. Fiberglass in primer for $250 less than Carbon Fiber pricing (currently undetermined)?

As currently proposed this Ducktail would use the existing baseplate and center mounted brake light which would require disassembly of the motorized wing. The disassembly took me 30 minutes the first time I did it.
The alternative would be to source the baseplate and light from a recycler.

Updates in the not-too-distant future.
This made my day! Ready to buy one as soon as it’s available. I’m fine with fiberglass or carbon fiber, don’t mind paying more for carbon fiber. Primered is fine since I’d paint body color no matter the material.

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Old 08-29-2024, 01:16 AM
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Anybody ever see a ducktail on a 991 targa?
Old 08-29-2024, 10:03 AM
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This is great news! I’d definitely stick with primer carbon fiber. The OEM spoiler is a brick back there and anything to also help remove weight is always a plus. For some reason I thought the whole spoiler was attached to a large metal plate which added to the weight. I agree with @4 Point 0 , this ducktail needs to be more than for looks and could use the extra lip as shown in his pictures above. You might also want to reach out to @Grantsfo who has been on a weight saving rampage and would probably have great ideas on the attachment point. Might as well make this ducktail to be the end-all-be-all solution! “Build it and the they will come”!
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Old 08-29-2024, 10:14 AM
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Since I didn't reply in thread - agree Cabon Fiber in Primer.
Also would need to work on a stock GTS not just other variants...at least for me. I am not sure if the GTS attachment etc is any different than Base or S models.
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I have been researching about a ducktail on my 991.2 since I got my car 4 months back. TAKE MY MONEY!!! LETS GO LETS DO THIS! 🙏
Old 09-02-2024, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Renn-911
I have been researching about a ducktail on my 991.2 since I got my car 4 months back. TAKE MY MONEY!!! LETS GO LETS DO THIS! 🙏
Patience, Grasshopper. Should have an update soon.
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Old 09-02-2024, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by AdamSanta85
For mounting, I wonder if the 991.1 OE ducktail baseplate would work for. Then you wouldn’t have to disassemble OE mechanical spoiler.

Its only like a $200 part

The person I sold my 991.1 OE ducktail kit to installed it on a 991.2 GT3 successfully

Looked at the 991.1 mounting base but 1. It doesn't have the engine grill latch mechanism integrated like the 991.2 base and 2. it would need to be substantially modified to allow for airflow to intercooler ducting. Also don't think it has holes for rear light bolts.
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