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Totally repairable, ask me how I know! I just had a similar instance where I was run off the road wide around a curve by an oncoming SUV driving down the middle of the road. I had similar side damage from being pushed into the road sign which did similar damage but not as extensive to the door and rear arch area. I do know that the complete arch area section goes down to the rocker area and is a fairly big section but easily replaced by a properly trained Porsche repair facility. Whereas yours is above the rocker area, mine was below as the edge of the road dented it pretty well, enough that replacing was the only option. My mirror was trashed which then swung in to chip the RH window glass which was also replaced. Repair came out perfectly and you cannot tell it from the original. Car runs fine, no wind noise, door operates perfectly etc. Car is Guards Red and with today's scanners you can match the paint perfectly, don't worry about comments about being tough to match, totally unfounded with today's paint technology. The car was painted on the complete RH side, as yours would be and even the dealer could not find fault with the paint match and finish.
Why you want to total a perfect good car for what really is a cosmetic repair is beyond me. If you love the car get it repaired and move on. My repair was around $23K in total but that included a RH Headlight and new wheel which was almost $5K for both. Yours don't seem harmed so I am guessing the repair total would balance out.
Could cost $20k or could cost $40k depending on a lot of factors. Honestly, the fender looks terrible, but all of that can be removed and replaced with a new panel. It’s not as easy as a bolt on fender, but is still 100% repairable. A good shop can fix that and you wouldn’t be able to tell by looking at it. Good luck, hopefully you find a good shop.
Def not totalled. New door skin, new front fender and cut and replace rear fender.
I would guess your car is still worth 70k - 80k give or take.
That repair will most likely still be under half that amount assuming no hidden damage. On the surface it looks all superficial.
You missed replacement of the rear quarter panel, making this is a major repair. Rear quarter will need to be replaced which is major surgery up to the roof line to the front window and the rocker panel below the passenger door both rear and front windows need to come out along with passenger door for replacement of rear quarter panel/rocker panel. This one may be totaled. Interior panels and seats will need to removed in the rear seat area for access to the rear quarter panel.
Last edited by MarkG123; Sep 15, 2023 at 09:20 AM.
Unfortunately that is going to be a car marked with repaired frame damage, a massive hit in depreciation. Better get an accident lawyer for that, will be 100% worth it to not only get the full value of your repairs, but also a fat check for diminished value. The hole is through the actual aluminum frame of the car.
Unfortunately that is going to be a car marked with repaired frame damage, a massive hit in depreciation. Better get an accident lawyer for that, will be 100% worth it to not only get the full value of your repairs, but also a fat check for diminished value. The hole is through the actual aluminum frame of the car.
Can someone explain how diminished value works? Is it simply the value lost due to it being wrecked even though repaired properly? i.e., car was worth $x prior to accident but now the car after the accident, even after being repaired properly, won't fetch the same vale as pre-wrecked value?
Can someone explain how diminished value works? Is it simply the value lost due to it being wrecked even though repaired properly? i.e., car was worth $x prior to accident but now the car after the accident, even after being repaired properly, won't fetch the same vale as pre-wrecked value?
You are correct. The value of a car is diminished due to the accident even if properly and perfectly repaired. The difference is the diminished value that you can claim (fight) with the insurance company of the vehicle causing the damage. If you cause the damage yourself, you will not be able to claim diminished value on your own comprehensive policy.
Can someone explain how diminished value works? Is it simply the value lost due to it being wrecked even though repaired properly? i.e., car was worth $x prior to accident but now the car after the accident, even after being repaired properly, won't fetch the same vale as pre-wrecked value?
Look at it this way. You have a perfect 1k mile Carrera GT. (hypothetical/easy numbers) Let's say the car was at that point worth $2M even. A Ford Explorer backs up into it at a Cars&Coffee and destroys the car just like the OP's above. Yes, the insurance company will fix it, but now you went from a perfect-history/condition GT to one that has 1/2 the car painted, non-factory parts, non-original VIN stickers, repaired frame damage, and bad carfax. The car might be worth $750k now. When you fight for diminished value, you're looking for them to pay you that difference ($1.25M) that your car was worth before they ruined it, and made it worth now. Not your fault the Ford destroyed the car and made you lose $1.25M, after the repair costs, so they should pay you the difference of your lost value too.
I'm sure their insurance would drop them in a heartbeat right after though.
Look at it this way. You have a perfect 1k mile Carrera GT. (hypothetical/easy numbers) Let's say the car was at that point worth $2M even. A Ford Explorer backs up into it at a Cars&Coffee and destroys the car just like the OP's above. Yes, the insurance company will fix it, but now you went from a perfect-history/condition GT to one that has 1/2 the car painted, non-factory parts, non-original VIN stickers, repaired frame damage, and bad carfax. The car might be worth $750k now. When you fight for diminished value, you're looking for them to pay you that difference ($1.25M) that your car was worth before they ruined it, and made it worth now. Not your fault the Ford destroyed the car and made you lose $1.25M, after the repair costs, so they should pay you the difference of your lost value too.
I'm sure their insurance would drop them in a heartbeat right after though.
That's kind of what I thought, just making sure. I realize that insurance companies will fight on this but to what degree? Are they somewhat reasonable? The hard part is coming up with this new diminished value, right? I mean, is there research or market based data to help arrive at this loss number?
[QUOTE=MarkG123;19013873]You missed replacement of the rear quarter panel, making this is a major repair. Rear quarter will need to be replaced which is major surgery up to the roof line to the front window and the rocker panel below the passenger door both rear and front windows need to come out along with passenger door for replacement of rear quarter panel/rocker panel. This one may be totaled. Interior panels and seats will need to removed in the rear seat area for access to the rear quarter panel.[/QUOTE
The rear quarter panel does NOT to the roofline or front window and is limited to the repair panel as shown.
If you have to battle for diminished value then hire a firm such as Autoloss to perform the analysis. Your opinion, friends, great uncle means nothing. At absolute minimum on any car the diminished value equals repair cost. On a 911 I would think substantially higher..... Small claims court is a great platform for diminished value. Again you sue the person who hit you not their insurance company.........
