Notices
991 2012-2019
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

991 Carrera S help please

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 07-14-2023, 10:50 AM
  #16  
Live Steam
Racer
 
Live Steam's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 417
Received 340 Likes on 138 Posts
Default

Your 911 isn't a stoplight dragster. It's a turn carver. Run it at high RPMs and have some fun or buy a Hellcat for zero to sixty times.
Old 07-14-2023, 11:22 AM
  #17  
VelocitasAngelus
Intermediate
Thread Starter
 
VelocitasAngelus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2020
Posts: 34
Received 17 Likes on 6 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Slantnose!
Hey, I'm in the area with a '13....maybe can compare sometime if want.
yeah I’m off today and all weekend love to meet I’ll let you drive mine get your opinion. I send you a pm
Old 07-14-2023, 11:36 AM
  #18  
VelocitasAngelus
Intermediate
Thread Starter
 
VelocitasAngelus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2020
Posts: 34
Received 17 Likes on 6 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Live Steam
Your 911 isn't a stoplight dragster. It's a turn carver. Run it at high RPMs and have some fun or buy a Hellcat for zero to sixty times.
that’s not the point dude. Porsche wouldn’t lie about their numbers, this tells me there is probably something wrong with the car. Also I started out on motorcycle then mustang then a c5z06 then a c6z06 stock then modded that to 687whp natural aspirated then my c7z51 stock then modified. I track my cars for fun at road courses and run them fast on back roads once a week or weekend with friends. My point is a got a lot of seat time most of it non drag because I like cars that can turn as you can see from my other cars. But in my humble experience I never had a car that didn’t meet oem numbers or were at least really close. Example my c7 did 3.8 just like gm says. After headers and tune it ran 3.6 without doing a no lift shift just babying the thing. So although I’m not a quarter mile guy and wouldn’t buy a hellcat. I do see the merits of testing the car in a quarter mile see if it’s doing oem spec numbers because that is the measure of performance used by the industry to keep a level field where you can compare cars. My car is off my more than one and a half second from Porsche claims. That’s an eternity in drag racing. It’s putting down numbers my mustang used to when I was a teen. No way this is normal I just want to verify before I drop it off at a shop since I’m new in town and don’t know the shops around this area.
The following 2 users liked this post by VelocitasAngelus:
911T4ME (07-14-2023), keebin (07-14-2023)
Old 07-14-2023, 11:45 AM
  #19  
PorscheAddict
Rennlist Member
 
PorscheAddict's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Tennessee
Posts: 1,260
Received 124 Likes on 77 Posts
Default

I think this is a legitimate concern to have, and you sound completely competent at launching and driving a manual car, but why not use numbers that are not based on that to remove the variable? Even with a crap launch the trap speed should be in the right ballpark. What is it trapping in 1/4? Could also look up 6-130 times or something for that car to compare. That car should be trapping around 115mph (give or take a mph or two).
Old 07-14-2023, 11:55 AM
  #20  
jfischet
Three Wheelin'
 
jfischet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: arizona
Posts: 1,326
Received 621 Likes on 365 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by VelocitasAngelus
I’m not at altitude your numbers are closer to oem and your at altitude higher da and higher temp then I am. It was 88F 4 ft and 2000da and I was .6 slower then yours and over a second slower than oem.
i agree you should be able to get a better number than me at sea level.,, at least as good.

i wonder what your air filters look like. maybe it was driven in a dust storm and they are all clogged. wild *** guess from a desert guy.
Old 07-14-2023, 11:56 AM
  #21  
Bud Taylor
Drifting
 
Bud Taylor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 2,254
Received 430 Likes on 307 Posts
Default

plugs and coils or just plugs ?
Old 07-14-2023, 12:00 PM
  #22  
VelocitasAngelus
Intermediate
Thread Starter
 
VelocitasAngelus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2020
Posts: 34
Received 17 Likes on 6 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by PorscheAddict
I think this is a legitimate concern to have, and you sound completely competent at launching and driving a manual car, but why not use numbers that are not based on that to remove the variable? Even with a crap launch the trap speed should be in the right ballpark. What is it trapping in 1/4? Could also look up 6-130 times or something for that car to compare. That car should be trapping around 115mph (give or take a mph or two).
yes I concur about trap speed and the S model per motor tend should trap 119 and that sounds right to me too. My C7 corvette trap 120 my C6z06 trap 125-127 when it was stock if I recall correctly. So 119 mph trap for the 991 is what I expected but I trap 111 mph on my best run out of ten runs, 109-110 mph trap for all other runs.
Old 07-14-2023, 12:13 PM
  #23  
PorscheAddict
Rennlist Member
 
PorscheAddict's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Tennessee
Posts: 1,260
Received 124 Likes on 77 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by VelocitasAngelus
yes I concur about trap speed and the S model per motor tend should trap 119 and that sounds right to me too. My C7 corvette trap 120 my C6z06 trap 125-127 when it was stock if I recall correctly. So 119 mph trap for the 991 is what I expected but I trap 111 mph on my best run out of ten runs, 109-110 mph trap for all other runs.
Interesting. 109-110mph does not sound right for a 991.1S. No idea what is causing the issue, but it sounds down on power. C&D got 111mph out of a base 991.1 manual.
Old 07-14-2023, 12:17 PM
  #24  
AdamSanta85
Rennlist Member
 
AdamSanta85's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: Long Island, NY
Posts: 2,693
Received 1,239 Likes on 727 Posts
Default

Throw it on a dyno, should be somewhere ~360whp.

I've used a Dragy a few times on my 991.1S PDK with some mods and my best time was 12.20 @ 113 in less-than-ideal conditions

Old 07-14-2023, 12:21 PM
  #25  
VelocitasAngelus
Intermediate
Thread Starter
 
VelocitasAngelus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2020
Posts: 34
Received 17 Likes on 6 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by jfischet
i agree you should be able to get a better number than me at sea level.,, at least as good.

i wonder what your air filters look like. maybe it was driven in a dust storm and they are all clogged. wild *** guess from a desert guy.
no it’s a good guess I changed the filters before I did the runs. They were dirty but nothing crazy. I put in a bmc filter new spark plugs changed all fluids. Ran 6 runs then Softronic tune ran 4 runs. Feel better throttle response after filter and tune but times were the same. I think something has to be taking power off.
Old 07-14-2023, 12:23 PM
  #26  
VelocitasAngelus
Intermediate
Thread Starter
 
VelocitasAngelus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2020
Posts: 34
Received 17 Likes on 6 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by AdamSanta85
Throw it on a dyno, should be somewhere ~360whp.

I've used a Dragy a few times on my 991.1S PDK with some mods and my best time was 12.20 @ 113 in less-than-ideal conditions
I called a shop they haven’t called back I would dyno it if I can find a place. It feels week it should pull harder. 12.2 is good it’s just above what Porsche says. I’m not off by a tenth I’m off by almost 2 seconds lol. Thanks you for your input.
Old 07-14-2023, 12:25 PM
  #27  
VelocitasAngelus
Intermediate
Thread Starter
 
VelocitasAngelus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2020
Posts: 34
Received 17 Likes on 6 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Bud Taylor
plugs and coils or just plugs ?
just plugs bmc filter all fluids and Softronic tune.
Old 07-14-2023, 12:29 PM
  #28  
VelocitasAngelus
Intermediate
Thread Starter
 
VelocitasAngelus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2020
Posts: 34
Received 17 Likes on 6 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by PorscheAddict
Interesting. 109-110mph does not sound right for a 991.1S. No idea what is causing the issue, but it sounds down on power. C&D got 111mph out of a base 991.1 manual.
yes I literally told my buddy last night it feels like a regular Carrera not an s it feels way down on power even for a regular Carrera. He says maybe they swapped the motor. There is no record of that in the maintenance records carfax so highly doubt it. Also seems like a lot of work you have to redue the computers too. It just feels like it’s down 70-80hp it feels like a 300-320hp car instead of a 500hp car
Old 07-14-2023, 12:34 PM
  #29  
mwho
Intermediate
 
mwho's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2023
Posts: 28
Received 8 Likes on 4 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by VelocitasAngelus
Sorry no boost, I have the 991.1 I couldn't find a 991.2 in red in manual in the entire country, so I bought a 991.1 manual red C2S. But yes, it's got sports chrono and I ran my runs with tc on and off and with sport plus mode on. It's not putting down the numbers it should be, and it feels slow.
My 991.2 (C4) felt sluggish + wasn't showing any boost. Eventually it threw an O2 sensor code mind you.

It turned out that the actuator arms on both my turbos were stuck. They sit right beside the rear tires, exposed.

On the 991.1s they were fully exposed. On the 991.2s they tried to put a flap to partially cover them (what I had on my car). Now on the 992s they are fully encased.
Old 07-14-2023, 01:05 PM
  #30  
HardRider
Racer
 
HardRider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2022
Posts: 433
Received 180 Likes on 123 Posts
Default

991.1 don't have Turbos. I think you nailed it, find a dyno and run it. I know my base 991.2 isn't quick but is very fast, meaning above 70 mph with rpm's in the upper end it rips. 991.2 base with tune would walk around my Superformance Cobra at 150 mph and I would be listening to music, the Superformance I would be listening to my last rights lol....


Quick Reply: 991 Carrera S help please



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 01:19 AM.