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Old 07-14-2023, 09:47 AM
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thats the same pump # they put on my 17 few years ago, have about 20K since and no issues
Old 07-14-2023, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by barncobob
thats the same pump # they put on my 17 few years ago, have about 20K since and no issues
That's great to hear!

I was hoping that being a 2019, I'd already have the 0PB-121-005-C pump...
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Originally Posted by mwho
UPDATE:

Got my car back! Turns out the water pump had failed with an internal leak sucking coolant into the vacuum lines.

Old pump on my 2019 991.2 was part # 0PB-121-005-A - does anyone know if this is the same pump model # on the 2017-2018 991.2s?

Replaced with # 0PB-121-005-C pump

Given I was recently out of warranty, Porsche Canada did cover 100% parts and 67% labour.

Also the tech did say there was a 2019 Carrera T with the same pump failure while my car was in the shop. I'm hoping they extend the 10yr warranty to include the 2019 991.2s...
that's pretty good coverage!
How has it been since the swap?
Old 02-25-2024, 06:27 PM
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I had message on MFD: "cooling system fault. consult a workshop. service required”
Only 25K mi on my 2019 Carrera S.
I ck my coolant & was pegged @ MIN. But no coolant or stain on my garage floor. 3 ½ months ago I had checked my coolant & was 1/2 way between MIN & MAX. I added 16 oz 50:50 mix. Zerex G40 Phosphate and Nitrite Free Concentrate Antifreeze/Coolant, Porsche approved.
Now level almost all the way to Max.
I used my Launch CRB 5001:
DME
DTC P1432 vacuum system fine leak – cooling system fault
I searched & found this & other threads re the coolant pump issue with 991.2.
10 yr. extended warranty up to MY 2018. Mine is 2019, delivered 1st wk January 2019 but was built 2018.
I suspected I had the old, defective water pump. leaking into vacuum lines.
I contacted local Porsche dealer service manager & explained all this.
Was told my 2019 does not qualify for the 10 yr. extended warranty but, I should bring it in & if a coolant pump leak, he will "go to bat" for me with PCNA.
I had to agree to pay $220 diagnostic fee.

Yes, it was the cooling pump and the valve block needs to be replaced as well as some vacuum lines that had some coolant in there. It looks like they will not need to replace the vacuum pump and they “plugged it” so no coolant can you get in there, ruining the vacuum pump. It is OK to drive it and no special precautions on my part need be taken.
I waited as manager checked with PCNA.

Success!
I was able to get Porsche to cover the repair 100%!
50% PCNA
25% Dealer
25% PAG

They also waived the $220 diagnostic fee!

I asked what it would cost if I had to pay & estimate was $3,500-$4,000.

I picked it up yesterday
Invoice: $0
Verified coolant warning is an instrument cluster and found fault P1432 – vacuum system find leak – cooling system fault.
Inspected vehicle and found coolant leaking from coolant pump and into vacuum line off coolant pump. Removed rear tail lights, rear spoiler, rear bumper and rear exhaust system. Replaced coolant pump. During cooling pump replacement, found coolant contamination in the vacuum line from coolant pump to vacuum valve block. Removed and replaced engine valve block. Reinstalled rear bumper, spoiler, tail lights and all hardware. Filled & bled cooling system. Cleared for memory and Road tested vehicle. Let vehicle sit overnight to verify cooling level.

Parts:

000–0 43–3 05–75 795649 G40 AFC 6
0PB – 121–005 – C coolant pump
982–1 10–0 80–01 vacuum line
982–1 10–0 90–03 control line
987–9 06–2 83–00 valve block
9P 1–3 17–357 support

My note: I am surprised the coolant pump was not: 0PB – 121–005 – D
That was the Gaudin Porsche P/N that fit my 911



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Old 02-25-2024, 06:39 PM
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ur 19 may have had a 18 pump..I think the newer ones are a C model from memory,,lucky U escaped the bullet on that one..
Old 02-25-2024, 07:31 PM
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What are the symptoms of the water pump failing?
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I had no symptoms other than MFD message.
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Originally Posted by barncobob
ur 19 may have had a 18 pump..I think the newer ones are a C model from memory,,lucky U escaped the bullet on that one..
Yes, I think I had the old, defective pump.

But, both Gaudin & Sunset parts show the current coolant pump for my 2019 Carrera S is:
0PB – 121–005 – D

and NOT:
0PB – 121–005 –C

So if "D" is the 4th revision of this part, what was wrong with "C?"
Old 02-25-2024, 10:01 PM
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luckily theres alot of alphabet left:}
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Old 02-26-2024, 11:52 AM
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My 2019 has a build date of 9/18, which makes it an early 19 model....(36,000 miles)
The last time we used the car a few weeks ago I noticed a sort of burning smell, no warnings and I did not notice a higher temp on the gauge
What to check?
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So my pump just failed. Car is on a flatbed on its way to the dealer in London, Ontario. 2019 Targa GTS w/ 33,000km. Build date June 2019, and the car is 6 months out of warranty.

My pump part number appears to be 0PB-121-010-A. The latest version is 010-D. Any thoughts as to why my car has a 010 model pump instead of the 005? And was this part number used in the 2017-2018 model years that received the 10 year warranty? I'm not getting a good feeling that Porsche London (from whom I purchased the car new but haven't serviced it there because its 1-1/2 hours away) is going to go to bat for me.








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I believe A was the first pump, previous poster says D is the current try at a non leaking water pump.
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Old 02-26-2024, 05:37 PM
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Got a call from the service advisor. $4500 plus tax. She is going to speak with Porsche about a goodwill repair but only with my insisting. She was most unhelpful and said there is little chance of it being covered. She did not like my mentioning that this is a known issue and was rather quick to end the call. Full disclosure, I have had all service work done at a local independent.


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So my pump just failed. Car is on a flatbed on its way to the dealer in London, Ontario. 2019 Targa GTS w/ 33,000km. Build date June 2019, and the car is 6 months out of warranty.

My pump part number appears to be 0PB-121-010-A. The latest version is 010-D. Any thoughts as to why my car has a 010 model pump instead of the 005? And was this part number used in the 2017-2018 model years that received the 10 year warranty? I'm not getting a good feeling that Porsche London (from whom I purchased the car new but haven't serviced it there because its 1-1/2 hours away) is going to go to bat for me.
Old 02-26-2024, 05:42 PM
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Back to my original question. Does anyone know if my pump, part # 0PB-121-010-A, was in use for model years 2017 and/or 2018? Thinking how could they deny warranty on a 2019 911 if they have extended the warranty to cover the same part number on 2017 and 2018 911s.

Thanks



Originally Posted by Waterloo
So my pump just failed. Car is on a flatbed on its way to the dealer in London, Ontario. 2019 Targa GTS w/ 33,000km. Build date June 2019, and the car is 6 months out of warranty.

My pump part number appears to be 0PB-121-010-A. The latest version is 010-D. Any thoughts as to why my car has a 010 model pump instead of the 005? And was this part number used in the 2017-2018 model years that received the 10 year warranty? I'm not getting a good feeling that Porsche London (from whom I purchased the car new but haven't serviced it there because its 1-1/2 hours away) is going to go to bat for me.
Old 02-26-2024, 05:43 PM
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contact PNA back in Georgia?. I was being stonewalled, talked to male rep who was very understanding, assigned me a case #. got email from the female"enforcer" that contacts the dealership. there is an 800 #. Dealer had my car almost a month,,,after her contact I had my car backin 2 days delivered to my driveway...dealer is an hour away. Impressive.
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