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Old 03-09-2023, 02:36 PM
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Default Looking to buy a manual GTS in PTS....

Anyone have anything they are thinking of selling. Open to .1 or .2, looking for a bright blue or fun PTS color and nice spec.
Old 03-10-2023, 09:16 AM
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Recently the gts #s are near gt3s

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they are only going to keep going up... unless we have a full-blown depression, that is.

happy hunting: BaT, pcarmarket, autotrader, etc.
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Should be a ton to choose from. Try to get one with low milesKidding, of course. I'm not sure if I have ever seen a manual 991 GTS in a wild PTS color on these boards..

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Old 03-11-2023, 12:09 AM
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Originally Posted by 96redLT4
I'm not sure if I have ever seen a manual 991 GTS in a wild PTS color on these boards....
^ I bet that's a rare GTS, or at least one that was spec'd by someone who planned to keep it.

I remember configuring 991.2s in three specs before pulling the trigger: sporting Carrera with PTS/PCCB/etc, sporting Carrera T with PCCB/etc, and very basic GTS. All were within $5k, and all were appealing.

If I started adding many (or any) of the pricier options I wanted to the GTS, it quickly got into GT3 Touring territory.

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Old 03-11-2023, 12:31 PM
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Just saw a 2017 4S with manual on Bring a trailer sell for $88,500 with 43K miles. INMO the deal of the year. Loaded also, have no clue why it went so cheap, dealer consignment. sticker was $140? what the difference between in and GTS, nothing with a tune.

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Originally Posted by HardRider
Just saw a 2017 4S with manual on Bring a trailer sell for $88,500 with 43K miles. INMO the deal of the year. Loaded also, have no clue why it went so cheap, dealer consignment. sticker was $140? what the difference between in and GTS, nothing with a tune.
Are you asking difference between 4S and 4 GTS? It’s more than just power. Plenty of ready on this forum regarding this exact question.
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I have a 991.1 manual GTS in PTS Voodoo Blue. The point I want to make is they're out there. I did a collaboration on my blog w/ Vin Analytics where we pulled a sample of 991.1 GTSs to see which options were most rare. We found that ~5% of the cars in the sample were PTS once we adjusted for Club Coupes and Rennsport VINs.

Here's the post if you want
​want additional background on what we discovered... https://www.gtsence.com/how-rare-is-your-991-gts/

Here's the car...


Sorry, not for sale... :-)

​I hope you can find yours! Happy to help you if there is some way I can. They're great cars.
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Originally Posted by GTSence
Here's the post if you want
​want additional background on what we discovered... https://www.gtsence.com/how-rare-is-your-991-gts/
Super interesting. I point out other 911s to my kids and get them to spot the difference. They eventually asked me if anyone else has a GTS exactly like mine. I told them probably not... Lava Orange was only offered late in the cycle, and I went Manual, Sunroof delete, NO GTS interior (I hate cosmetic carbon fiber), Burmester, and leather seat backs. I'd be surprised if there was an identical config in the USA. Actually I was going to go for PTS Viper Green when Lava Orange became available as a premium paint option and I was torn between green and orange already. Cheaper and avoided PTS dice rolling.
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Originally Posted by GTSence
...to see which options were most rare.
Well a low percentage also means not too many buyers wanted it in the first place which could also mean a smaller number of future buyers. Same goes for the high percentage of cars with countless possible colors.

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Sorry, not for sale... :-)
Neither is mine. How often do you find a 3 year old car with 98 miles on it.
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I'm a new '12 GTS owner who wanted a specific group of features. The discussion above prompted the question in my mind of how this limited build of cars were specified originally. Did a buyer at the dealership order them with the options that they thought would sell well? Or were a lot of them specified by the future owner?
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Originally Posted by pro1200
I'm a new '12 GTS owner who wanted a specific group of features. The discussion above prompted the question in my mind of how this limited build of cars were specified originally. Did a buyer at the dealership order them with the options that they thought would sell well? Or were a lot of them specified by the future owner?
I think it would not be possible to know if an individual or a dealer configured a car from the VIN. There are options which are more likely to be customer optioned--for example I wanted no sunroof, the dealer thought that was crazy. They spec cars for the widest appeal, not enthusiast appeal.
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Originally Posted by GTSence
I have a 991.1 manual GTS in PTS Voodoo Blue. The point I want to make is they're out there. I did a collaboration on my blog w/ Vin Analytics where we pulled a sample of 991.1 GTSs to see which options were most rare. We found that ~5% of the cars in the sample were PTS once we adjusted for Club Coupes and Rennsport VINs.

Here's the post if you want
​want additional background on what we discovered... https://www.gtsence.com/how-rare-is-your-991-gts/

Here's the car...


Sorry, not for sale... :-)

​I hope you can find yours! Happy to help you if there is some way I can. They're great cars.

What a Tease!
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Old 03-13-2023, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Tangerine
There are options which are more likely to be customer optioned--for example I wanted no sunroof, the dealer thought that was crazy.
Personally, I have no use for them either. They have never been opened in my 993 or 991.1 (both metal) other than during a test to make sure they work. And in my daily driver, maybe 15 minutes in 6 years and in fact since it has a glass sunroof, the shade is pulled shut all the time. Hell, if I want an open-air feeling, I'll hop on the motorcycle.
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Originally Posted by IXLR8
Personally, I have no use for them either. They have never been opened in my 993 or 991.1 (both metal) other than during a test to make sure they work. And in my daily driver, maybe 15 minutes in 6 years and in fact since it has a glass sunroof, the shade is pulled shut all the time. Hell, if I want an open-air feeling, I'll hop on the motorcycle.
I agree that I rarely use the glass sunroof in my vehicles, and the shade is always drawn.

I would have been happy with not having a sunroof, but often it is impossible to option a vehicle like that. For my GTS it was equipped the way I bought it.



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