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Old 02-26-2023, 02:55 AM
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Originally Posted by awittig
If it can be solved by writing a check, it's an expense, not a problem.
it's definitely an ouch but spot on! get it done asap and put the whole mess behind you (and start enjoying the car again)
Old 02-26-2023, 09:48 AM
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Last year there are two long threads on Planet9 on the 987 forum about a similar broken spark plug from “caymanbob75””. The first was “Broken spark plug” and follow up was “Broken plug update”. IIRC he tried soaking, heat, cold, drilling and screw extractors and finally used a drill guide and was successful in removing the plug without removing the head. I don’t know if you have similar access to your plug as he did on his 987 Cayman, but you might give it a read and possibly save $$$ if your an avid DIY’er or find an Indy that would be on board with his method.
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https://www.planet-9.com/threads/broken-plug-update.251406/

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https://www.planet-9.com/threads/broken-spark-plug.251197/


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Old 02-26-2023, 11:44 AM
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What was obvious from the spark plug DIY that one of our members wrote up, was that the proper angle of the socket and extension relationship to the plug well is not as expected for me. The extension was not parallel to the walls. Unless this was due to droop between the socket and extension but I think the member made it clear that this wasn’t the case.

OP, best to you and please keep us posted.

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Old 02-26-2023, 08:02 PM
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Keep in mind, this was the FIRST plug that OP tried to take out. They still have five more to attempt. RIP.
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Old 02-26-2023, 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by MingusDew
Keep in mind, this was the FIRST plug that OP tried to take out. They still have five more to attempt. RIP.
This was my thought as well.

Hope the rest go better.

I am realizing that my RX-7 plugs are going on 9 years, with less than 1000 miles At least the oil has been changed.
Old 02-26-2023, 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim981CS
Last year there are two long threads on Planet9 on the 987 forum about a similar broken spark plug from “caymanbob75”.
He did a good job of it. From post #26...
My machinist suggested using a 12.5 mm drill to clean out most of the plug save for the threads. Bought a 14mmx1.25 spark plug tap
I have done something similar on a 6 mm bolt that broke off after days of PB Blaster and vibration. Luckily about 1/8 inch of the bolt stuck out with a machined surface on both sides. I used a 1 inch thick steel block counter bored for a 6mm for it to fit over the end of broken bolt (to center it) and then drilled in stages up to 4.6mm so that just the threads remained (drill diameter for a 6mm bolt is 5 mm).

Used a tap and the remaining threads chipped out. This was years ago on an unimportand fastener in the 993, but I hate helicoils and Nut-Serts. Original threads are intact. Took my time and did it right. Same on another fastener that took over 4 hours to remove. In both cases, thanks to aluminum oxide for causing me grief.
Old 02-27-2023, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Jack F
What was obvious from the spark plug DIY that one of our members wrote up, was that the proper angle of the socket and extension relationship to the plug well is not as expected for me. The extension was not parallel to the walls. Unless this was due to droop between the socket and extension but I think the member made it clear that this wasn’t the case.

OP, best to you and please keep us posted.
Any time that I have been unable to get the socket perfectly straight due to poor access to the hole it has only ended up in the plug breaking at the outer ceramic part. never seen one snapped off at the threads. problem here is the spark plug steel is a lot harder than the hole threads aluminum. guess which one is likely to strip out when you heave on it?
Old 02-27-2023, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by rensoyka
Any time that I have been unable to get the socket perfectly straight due to poor access to the hole it has only ended up in the plug breaking at the outer ceramic part. never seen one snapped off at the threads. problem here is the spark plug steel is a lot harder than the hole threads aluminum. guess which one is likely to strip out when you heave on it?
I used this on my last spark plug change and the magnetic holder and the location of the swivel IMO lessened the likelihood of applying pressure in the area of the porcelain. This socket made the spark plug easier and safer than my first plug change that I used a compilation of a standard short socket and an extension and swivel​​​​​​.
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Old 02-27-2023, 04:50 PM
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That tool doesn’t work on the 991.2. That model needs a 12 point socket.
Old 02-27-2023, 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by polobai
That tool doesn’t work on the 991.2. That model needs a 12 point socket.
Oops. Maybe a 12 point version of the tool??? I stand by the design of the tool reducing the likelihood of breaking the plug and ease of plug removal and install.
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Old 02-27-2023, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim981CS
Oops. Maybe a 12 point version of the tool??? I stand by the design of the tool reducing the likelihood of breaking the plug and ease of plug removal and install.
Jim
These are the same but splined...


I have the same 5/8" or 16mm flex spark plug sockets that you have in 3 length from KD Tools.
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Old 02-27-2023, 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by polobai
That tool doesn’t work on the 991.2. That model needs a 12 point socket.
I used this one:
FUN-DRIVING 14mm 3/8-inch Drive Magnetic Spark Plug Socket Set, Universal Joint 3/8-Inch Drive 12 PointSocket Removal Tool (14mm Short & Long) https://a.co/d/bfGLH4o
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Old 02-28-2023, 12:05 AM
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Having looked at the two YouTube videos in post #22, more of them popped up on YouTube and some are very good.

If I was there, I'd remove it. There is plenty of access having removed my plugs last summer.
Old 02-28-2023, 08:30 AM
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Can't wait to find out how OP finally decided to remove.
Old 03-02-2023, 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Porsche_nuts
Can't wait to find out how OP finally decided to remove.
It's been a month, so I guess he had the dealer do it and ended up paying 30% more than the "estimate".


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