Used 991.1 - Second thoughts
12-22-2022, 03:11 PM
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Guards_Red_991 (12-22-2022)
12-22-2022, 03:23 PM
#47
Need a bit of a sanity check here. I read through several posts about 991.2 vs 992 but they were pre-pandemic or from 2021 when the market wasnt as bad. But given the current market, I am looking at paying $100k ish for a 2019 991.2 with 23k miles and warrant for another year. I'm also seeing listings of 2020 992s around 110k, I'm torn a little here, am I making a mistake by going for the older generation for a 10% price difference? I have driven only the 991.2, not the 992, but reading all the posts, it seems its definitely an improvement (especially in the road noise/ ride quality department).
Edit: Now that I look at the specs on the 992s that are in the $110-115k range, they have next to no options and based on their MSRP, basically have a $2-5k depreciation in 3 years, which sounds a little nuts. On the other hand the 2019 991.2 as specd was about $114k and I'll be paying around $97k + TTL. So now that I think of it, the 991.2 seems a tad better value, unless the 992s will hold more value over time?
My plan is to use the car for 3-4 years and then trade-in
Edit: Now that I look at the specs on the 992s that are in the $110-115k range, they have next to no options and based on their MSRP, basically have a $2-5k depreciation in 3 years, which sounds a little nuts. On the other hand the 2019 991.2 as specd was about $114k and I'll be paying around $97k + TTL. So now that I think of it, the 991.2 seems a tad better value, unless the 992s will hold more value over time?
My plan is to use the car for 3-4 years and then trade-in
12-22-2022, 03:40 PM
#48
Thanks for all the inputs folks. I think the safest bet would be to wait, but looking at interest rate hikes, it could potentially even out, I might save in upfront OTD price but then would have a 6-7% APR loan. Also as for the stock market, if the SP 500 does tank by a crazy amount, I'll likely be one of the people affected by it 
... so thats also a bit of a scary thought. I'm currently locked in at 4% for 60months with my Credit union till mid February.
Right now my new train of thought is, if I can get a CPO 991.2 for around $80-$83k OTD (ideally 2018 or newer) with less than 30k miles I'd consider that. If not I'll be on the lookout for a 992 CPO in the $110-115k OTD range with a basic build.
... so thats also a bit of a scary thought. I'm currently locked in at 4% for 60months with my Credit union till mid February.Right now my new train of thought is, if I can get a CPO 991.2 for around $80-$83k OTD (ideally 2018 or newer) with less than 30k miles I'd consider that. If not I'll be on the lookout for a 992 CPO in the $110-115k OTD range with a basic build.
Why not $50K OTD the with CPO in color and options you want, make sure you buy and live in Delaware they don't charge sales tax.
12-22-2022, 03:54 PM
#50
From personal experience where I owned multiple 65 Shelby Cobra replicas, among many other multiples of the same car, the first is always the best, each purchase thereafter has exponentially diminished returns. In many cases you go backwards. I suggest buying the car you want, color options, if you aren't satisfied its highly unlikely the same car but different year will make a difference. I bought a F250, 6.7 liter diesel, ultimate camera, perfect color, all options. I hated that truck. I now know there isn't 3/4 ton or 1 ton truck on the planet I would want to own. If I would have skimped on options or color I would always be wondering if it had this or that I may have kept it..... Turning radius of locomotive, back breaking ride, everything a truck is supposed to be, lol. It did look incredible, best looking truck I will have ever owned.
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12-22-2022, 05:31 PM
#51
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Any 991.1 is, and the more I know about the technical aspects of the 991.2 and 992, glad I have one.
Reading about temperature management in another thread and putting up with crap like a two-stage coolant pump and a COV to control it, little wonder owners get an overheat warning display on the MID.
I have been on the track with a 992. Nice, but I much prefer the more linear power of my 3.8l GTS.
Reading about temperature management in another thread and putting up with crap like a two-stage coolant pump and a COV to control it, little wonder owners get an overheat warning display on the MID.
I have been on the track with a 992. Nice, but I much prefer the more linear power of my 3.8l GTS.
12-22-2022, 05:53 PM
#53
I dont think its a change for the sake of change, the newer Gens are producing more power, while also staying in check with the latest emission regulations, are safer and have the technology that most want in their cars. The turbo charger is what is going to save IC engines as more and more look at alternatives. To compare a similar situation, I was and still am a huge fan of 2-stroke engines, anyone who has ridden a 2-stroke streetbike will never want anything else, but sadly direct injection and other efficieny related tech came too late to save the 2-strokes.
12-22-2022, 06:01 PM
#54
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More power? People should try driving what they have to the limit. Most of them are still in sandbox 101 and drag races from light to light bore me.
12-22-2022, 07:17 PM
#55
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I had a Suzuki RG500 Gamma, the best of the bunch of the mid-80s repli-racers. An incredible machine and well thought out. Far better than the RZ500 and NS400.
More power? People should try driving what they have to the limit. Most of them are still in sandbox 101 and drag races from light to light bore me.
More power? People should try driving what they have to the limit. Most of them are still in sandbox 101 and drag races from light to light bore me.
No PDK, no Power Steering, No Radiators, No computerized nannies. Just pure fun.
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01-09-2023, 06:35 PM
#57
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I really debated 991.2 vs 992 too. The consensus is that the manual in the 991.2 is better than the one in the 991.1. Being a manual driver, that took the 991.1 out of the picture. That meant more to me than the NA vs turbo. I really dislike the dash of my 992 GTS. It looks elegant and modern, but it's absurdly complex and difficult, and two gauges are completely hidden. I've made peace and learned to tolerate the PCM but we'll never be friends. I have a 2020 Spyder, and I love the dash and function. So for me, the winning combination would probably be a 992 with a 991 interior. But they don't make that...If I did it again, what would I do? I honestly don't know...
On the other hand, since I do all my own maintenance, needing to remove the bumper to change the air filters on the 991 was probably enough by it self to push me to the 992.
On the other hand, since I do all my own maintenance, needing to remove the bumper to change the air filters on the 991 was probably enough by it self to push me to the 992.
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Bearrun21 (01-09-2023)
01-10-2023, 12:27 PM
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I really debated 991.2 vs 992 too. The consensus is that the manual in the 991.2 is better than the one in the 991.1. Being a manual driver, that took the 991.1 out of the picture. That meant more to me than the NA vs turbo. I really dislike the dash of my 992 GTS. It looks elegant and modern, but it's absurdly complex and difficult, and two gauges are completely hidden. I've made peace and learned to tolerate the PCM but we'll never be friends. I have a 2020 Spyder, and I love the dash and function. So for me, the winning combination would probably be a 992 with a 991 interior. But they don't make that...If I did it again, what would I do? I honestly don't know...
On the other hand, since I do all my own maintenance, needing to remove the bumper to change the air filters on the 991 was probably enough by it self to push me to the 992.
On the other hand, since I do all my own maintenance, needing to remove the bumper to change the air filters on the 991 was probably enough by it self to push me to the 992.
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01-10-2023, 12:56 PM
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01-11-2023, 08:41 AM
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