Joec500

I have the precision Works cables, from what I can see they are built exactly the same as the numeric ones WITH the metal rod ends and even the little plastic cap things on the rod ends.

When I did my research I found that a lot of aftermarket shift cables are built using materials from: https://www.controlcables.com/push-pull-cables-1/

When clicking into the technical specs and diagrams they appear to be identical.



If you are ever in the LA area, def hit me up!

koala

That is top-tier sleuthing there. I might just ask Numeric if they would consider supplying their standard non-metal rod ends along with new caps and cable insulation if I also buy the shifter from them.

Next time I'm at my supplier in Ontario, CA I'll let you know and we'll go for a beer!

Guards_Red_991

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911T4ME

I recently purchased a 991.2 T equipped with Numeric shifter. I've driven many stick cars and although it does "shift like a bolt action rifle", I'm not that happy with it. Takes two hands to get it into reverse and it's noisy (think metallic clanking sound).
Yes, the shifts are precise. I swapped T's with a friend who has stock shifter. I thought it shifted fine and wasn't noisy.

I have and will track my car and I'll say the shifter worked fine at the track. Not sure how the OEM shifter would have felt.

I've heard of others in this post mentioning softer springs and I've seen there are covers available on the numeric cables (which I have) to reduce the metallic noise of shifting. Unfortunately, PO didn't keep stock cables, only shifter.

I've decided to drive it as is right now,, but with my set up I'm not a fan boy (yet).

Tangerine

I have the Numeric shifter, stock cables, softer spring. 2 hands to shift into reverse? I'm a weakling and I'd prefer it was harder to shift into reverse actually. Something sounds messed up.

koala

A few notes:

• I raised my Function First shift **** up by about half an inch. This had an immediate positive impact on shift feel. The GT4 shifter / racing cable combination made it so that I was going from 2nd to 5th pretty easily. On my 30 min. drive this morning I didn't miss 3rd at all.
• The GT4 box is still too mushy for me. I'm going to order the Numeric racing shifter, probably with the 1.5mm spring

Most importantly, I'm a bit of a dumb dumb and I might have set myself up for disappointment and frustration that was unnecessary. In my infinite wisdom, I removed the rear seats, radio and trim pieces before taking the car to the shop as I thought I'd save myself an hour or two of labour charges. I reinstalled the radio and centre console pieces and that alone made a difference on the gear whine - even just having a bit of music playing at low volume makes quite a difference. I'm just about to go reinstall the rear seats next and I suspect that'll help, too.

I'm still hopeful the rod ends are compatible between Numeric and Precision Works as I'd still swap out the ends to help with the NVH.

I'll have to reserve final judgment until I get the Numeric shifter installed, but at this point, I would not recommend the GT4 shifter with Numeric or Precision Works cables. It's just not a nice combination... the stiff cables really accentuate how sloppy and terrible the factory shifters are.

koala

That sounds like the cable needs to be adjusted. It should be firm and maybe even a bit notchy, but it shouldn't require "force" as you describe!

Joec500

Yah the rear seats etc is a all soft materials that will cancel out a lot of that whine. Worst case you can go underneath the car and wrap some fuel line or other thick tubing around the metal cables. You may have to pop off the ends from the trans to slide them on or you could prob even just slice the tubing down the middle and zip tie them on. Either way, that should eliminate most of that whine if it bothers you. I personally love it, but with my headers and exhaust I really can't hear anything LOL

The Ox

2 hands for reverse, maybe just a little hyperbole, noisy? Oh brother...

jfischet

slightly off topic but when you engage a gear is it indicated on the dash before you release the clutch? on mine it only displays after the clutch is released so pretty useless if the purpose is to give you a chance to prevent a money shift.

koala

Unfortunately not. That would be amazing! I guess the one upside to ridiculously tall gearing is that it's a lot less likely you're going to do permanent damage at or below the speed limit

roketman

I went with the numeric shifter with the cables and the function first shifter
A world of difference!
From mush to …..Crisp and precise!

911T4ME

Thanks, I'll give it a try.

koala

Alright folks, I have now run the gauntlet on shifter combinations. I just picked up the car this afternoon. It is now running the Numeric shifter w/ 2mm spring + Precision Works cables w/ metal cable connectors.

I went from stock > GT4 > GT4 w/ Precision Works Cables and now to the Ultimate™ setup.

This setup is insane. Shortest throws I've ever experienced in any vehicle. Firm, no wiggle, "bolt-action" for certain.

The GT4 shifter is like a 10% improvement over the stock shifter. The cables take it to 65%. This combo is now 110%.