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I think a tune and some simple mods would really liven the T up but hopefully i can revert and not suffer too much on the resale. But even if I can get back 80-90% of what I paid for it, i'd be happy.
Goto recipe for a more fun T: DSC controller, equal length headers, sport cats, tune. If you want to get a little more spicy, Essex AP Racing big brake kit and Numeric shifter, though the T shifter is already an upgrade so the Numeric is less of an improvement relative to a standard Carrera.
had the same debate earlier in oct & decided to go with .1gts (but in the end didn't finish the deal as car got away). it's a really tough decision, T wins on steering, chassis dynamic, torq & I'm a sucker for .2 taillight. .1gts wins on na sound & power delivery, value hold due to being last na carrera & the wide body look. you are looking at best 2 991 carrera so no wrong choice, enjoy whatever you come up with!
Thanks everyone for the input. Lots of great and helpful points. I probably should have clarified a few details in my original post:
-Kids are both under 5ft and will be for a 2-3years.
-Daily Driver means use it for commuting 2-3x per week with "occasional" kid pickup. I have a regular DD
-I have a 981GT4 and intend to keep it along with the 911 that I choose. I dont think i can stretch for a 991.2 GTS if I am keeping the GT4
Main priority is the driving feel of the car (acceleration, handling, steering, balance, etc). Since the engine in the Gt4 is practically the same as the 991.1 GTS, Im leaning towards getting the T to experience a bit of the low end torque from the turbo. I agree that the 3.8L NA really needs to rev past 5K to really appreciate it. I think a tune and some simple mods would really liven the T up but hopefully i can revert and not suffer too much on the resale. But even if I can get back 80-90% of what I paid for it, i'd be happy.
The 991.1 GTS was the last naturally aspirated 911 Carrera and it has the most horsepower of any naturally aspirated Carrera, ever. The 911 was naturally aspirated with its inception in 1964. Going forward, as of the 991.2, all Carreras will be turbocharged. I will submit that the 991.1 GTS is as close as one can come to having a GT3 in a 911 Carrera. I speak from vast experience as I have a 991.2 Touring. The GTS is naturally aspirated. It (can be) rear wheel drive. It has the same wide body. Its engine note is intoxicating and builds to a crescendo at redline.
It is by no means a GT3. Its steering and chassis are inferior to the GT3. Its acceleration cannot compare. I do prefer the GTS's lack of valves - in the GT3, at 4,000 RPM, there is a little "kick" when the valves open that does not exist in the GTS. Pound for pound, the 991.2 GT3 Touring is the far more capable car than the 991.1 GTS but the GTS has several advantages as well. It is only sporty when required - with the push of a button or two. It can be docile and a very capable daily driver. The GT3 is always begging to be pushed and is not at its best in bumper to bumper traffic, putzing along at 2,000 RPM in 2nd gear. The 991.1 GTS never ceases to amaze me. It can be quiet, it can be loud. It can handle traffic. It can be very, very fast at a track (I have been there, done that). It is a real jack of all trades. And the 3.8 L, 430 hp NA engine is a masterpiece, and one that will not be coming back.
The Carrera T also has a lot of great attributes. Narrow body. Lightweight features. Scarce - very few were produced, compared to the other Carreras in the 991.2. But I suspect there will be more Ts going forward. The next T will be faster still, even if not as attractive as the 991.2 generation. There certainly will be more turbocharged Carreras going forward. But there will not be more naturally aspirated Carreras. As far as I am concerned, any 911 in your garage is a fantastic 911. You are going to continue to get divergent opinions about which one is "better" but ultimately you will have to decide which one is better for you. Good luck!
Last edited by Porsche911GTS'16; 12-29-2021 at 03:09 AM.
*** Bias Alert *** I own a '18 911T , have not owned or driven a 991.1 GTS or other 991.1 variant..
The 911T is a Unicorn , so special in the 911 range
Short Throw 7 speed gearbox, light weight glass , less sound deadening , lowered PASM , sport exhaust , STD PTV, Sport design steering wheel , Nylon door pull straps , Agate Gray Mirrors and 20" Carrera S Wheels and, , Carrera T Interior ( if optioned) , and the mighty 3.0 Flat 6 w. 370 HP , 331 Pd Ft Torque !!
And every day drivable . The view from Mt Soledad
This combination is beyond exhilarating . The Weissach engineers nailed it with this limited run 911 . Only 939 imported to USA in 2018-19, it is a classic .
And you couple this with the '18 PSM upgrade, Apple Car Play , - its the last and best of 991 generation for sure .
Every time I climb in , fire her up and start the drive , endorphins kick in,, and all the stuff in the world slips away .
Get The T
i would totally trade you my 991.2 gts4 for this car. this is my exact car that i sold and i am in regret
i would totally trade you my 991.2 gts4 for this car. this is my exact car that i sold and i am in regret
I'm sorry for your regret - I can appreciate that , but mine is not for sale nor will I trade . I had a search in Auto trader for a year ( looking for this combination of options on 911T : Manual, Sunroof, no LWBS ), then one day in April of this year AT delivered me the message that this car was available .
Was it yours? Bought at North Scottsdale Arizona Porsche
lol I'm not sure i would call the t "analog".......
I’m pretending he meant ‘analogue’. It almost makes sense then. Unless the PCM uses a magical system of tiny cogs, pulleys, magnets and mice ? With the Germans, anything is possible.
I had the pleasure of driving my T and a GTS back-to-back a few years ago. What I recall is that the handling (while similar) had a different feel. The T felt like a much more "darty" car (both RAS cars). That maybe your cup of tea (or not). Power on a 991.1 GTS and 991.2 T feels similar - though delivered a bit differently and with a different soundtrack - that will also influence your decision.
12-28-2021 | 05:52 PM
