991.2 Base Enough?
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Most of our customers love the combination of headers and high flow cats to improve the quality of the exhaust sound and volume; they really add to the experience of the car. You will feel an improvement in response and power also. Of course, the biggest power gain will be from a tune.
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Most of our customers love the combination of headers and high flow cats to improve the quality of the exhaust sound and volume; they really add to the experience of the car. You will feel an improvement in response and power also. Of course, the biggest power gain will be from a tune.
I prefer the sound of the 911 over the C63S now. It’s much more race car and has that distinct flat-6 sound
that builds with the RPM’s. The V8 TT in the C63S sounded great, but it was a lot of V8 noise and not much tone.
My C63S with 200 cell downpipes and CF intake:
My 991.2 with Vektor headers, THS catless bypipes and X-Pipe:
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CWTLDFWJp5_/
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I wasn’t happy with the sound of the 3.0 until I added Vektor headers. Even with catless pipes and a Fabspeed X-Pipe was too muted for me coming from a 200 cell sport catted C63S. That thing was LOUD.
I prefer the sound of the 911 over the C63S now. It’s much more race car and has that distinct flat-6 sound
that builds with the RPM’s. The V8 TT in the C63S sounded great, but it was a lot of V8 noise and not much tone.
My C63S with 200 cell downpipes and CF intake:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CJlxhJ1p_6K/
My 991.2 with Vektor headers, THS catless bypipes and X-Pipe:
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CWTLDFWJp5_/
I prefer the sound of the 911 over the C63S now. It’s much more race car and has that distinct flat-6 sound
that builds with the RPM’s. The V8 TT in the C63S sounded great, but it was a lot of V8 noise and not much tone.
My C63S with 200 cell downpipes and CF intake:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CJlxhJ1p_6K/
My 991.2 with Vektor headers, THS catless bypipes and X-Pipe:
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CWTLDFWJp5_/
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My 991.2 with Vektor headers, THS catless bypipes and X-Pipe:
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CWTLDFWJp5_/
My 991.2 with Vektor headers, THS catless bypipes and X-Pipe:
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CWTLDFWJp5_/
I need more of this!! Sound incredible.....wonder what beefed up turbos would do?!
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AlexZTuned (11-16-2021)
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My 991.2 with Vektor headers, THS catless bypipes and X-Pipe:
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CWTLDFWJp5_/
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I can tell you with absolute confidence the PDK in Sport Plus in manual is on another planet compared to the latest and greatest 9-speed MCT. You need more seat time with a PDK to understand, shift times and responsiveness are based on a number of factors like RPMs, engine load, map (normal, sport, sport plus, and sport response). It will also slip the clutch if needed to manage torque which can be perceived as a slow shift, At times with little throttle input and low rpm, you are not going to fire off rocket shifts either.
However, drive any PDK 991.2 with Sport Chrono, knock it into manual, put it in sport plus, click the sport response button and paddle shift it at wide open throttle - if you still don’t feel a significant difference over the AMG 9-speed you may need to be recalibrated 😉
Even the PDK in my Macan S is a better trans - as much as I hate to say it… and I owned the C63S with it.
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I’ll chime in again and state... get the S zero to 60 3.1, 1/4 11.5.
find a way to buy one and make yourself happy... it’s as fast as 991.1 GT3 when you put on cup 2s and pagid yellow pads on it.
if you get the sports package equipped one., pdcc.... comes with all the goodies.
ive tracked with a few C63 S at Road Atlanta and they can’t keep up on the straights ... not to mention braking and corners.
The 991.2 S beats the AMG everywhere and runs well with the AMG GTs
some track day fun!
find a way to buy one and make yourself happy... it’s as fast as 991.1 GT3 when you put on cup 2s and pagid yellow pads on it.
if you get the sports package equipped one., pdcc.... comes with all the goodies.
ive tracked with a few C63 S at Road Atlanta and they can’t keep up on the straights ... not to mention braking and corners.
The 991.2 S beats the AMG everywhere and runs well with the AMG GTs
some track day fun!
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I have quite a few on my IG and in saved story highlights (see the 991.2 build story)
That’s with TiAL M660’s, Inlet tubes, IC’s, Turbosmart Bypass valves, Vektor Equal Length headers (custom EWG setup - capped off), THS catless bypass pipes, THS X-pipe (no resonators, straight through and super light).
Running the stock ECU (11-12 psi). Seemed to have lost about 1 psi because of how efficient the turbos and hardware is - the ECU doesn’t need to request full boost to make the desired torque.
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Just a very tough decision.
I'm not a guy who's into tuning my cars.
The base has it's appeal & the spec i have potentially is perfect. It handles great.
The C63S is my dream C63S spec. It has more power, torque and speed.
Living in Dallas, there aren't many twisty backroads & 75% of my driving is highway driving.
So that's a factor as well.
Decisions, decisions...
I'm not a guy who's into tuning my cars.
The base has it's appeal & the spec i have potentially is perfect. It handles great.
The C63S is my dream C63S spec. It has more power, torque and speed.
Living in Dallas, there aren't many twisty backroads & 75% of my driving is highway driving.
So that's a factor as well.
Decisions, decisions...
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Questions:
1) Are the 991s soo overpriced now & may come crashing down in a year or so? (I'd want to move up to an S or 992 in the next 3 years.)
2) Is the 991.2 base enough?
3) Does the S PDK shift faster than the base? (Seems like it may be the case from YT vids i watched)
4) Do you notice a difference from the brakes not being 6-piston?
1) Are the 991s soo overpriced now & may come crashing down in a year or so? (I'd want to move up to an S or 992 in the next 3 years.)
2) Is the 991.2 base enough?
3) Does the S PDK shift faster than the base? (Seems like it may be the case from YT vids i watched)
4) Do you notice a difference from the brakes not being 6-piston?
2) Yes.
3) Same
4) Not unless you are on the track.
I think you are overthinking this.
- I have an RS5 Sportback… which, roughly equates to your AMG. It has 444hp, 443 torque and goes 0-60 in 3.8… Same as your AMG.
- I also have a ‘base’ 991.2… (Albeit a ‘T’.)
Which is more fun to drive on the weekend? The 991.2.
What do I take on the track? The base 991.2
If it weren’t for hauling people and stuff, which would I drive every day? The 991.2
Maybe some of the “T features” like Mech LSD and gear ratios are swaying me heavily here, but I don’t think you’ll notice base vs S for 95% of the roads you’ll travel.
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I wouldn’t do it. Those cars were 70-75k 2.5 years ago and IMO will be the model (along with the 3.4 991.1) that will correct the fastest.
Also the base doesn’t have a limited slip differential and has taller gearing than the other three models.
Unless you are driving it like Miss Daisy, T, S, or GTS. If all motor interests you give a 991.1 S or GTS a spin.
Also the base doesn’t have a limited slip differential and has taller gearing than the other three models.
Unless you are driving it like Miss Daisy, T, S, or GTS. If all motor interests you give a 991.1 S or GTS a spin.
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