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08-07-2021, 11:37 AM
#16
RL Community Team
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08-07-2021, 11:40 AM
#17
Three Wheelin'
Asked about the PCM 6.0 upgrade in the Macan forum, led me to this guy.
Let me just say, this isn't a gaming system, it's a motor vehicle. Without understanding EXACTLY what changes are being made, it's important to understand that adjusting anything outside the parameters it came with from the factory is a risk. Any number of things could go wrong here, independent of overt maliciousness,-which no matter how nice the guy is, can't be ruled out without appropriate due diligence.
Personally, it's not remotely worth the risk, I don't care how many great reviews he's received.
It's just not ever a good idea to allow someone you don't trust IMPLICITLY unfettered access to anything electronic that you care about. Even then, there's always a risk unless they REALLY know what they're doing.
If I wasn't slammed at work I'd look into the implications personally.
Caveat Emptor.
Let me just say, this isn't a gaming system, it's a motor vehicle. Without understanding EXACTLY what changes are being made, it's important to understand that adjusting anything outside the parameters it came with from the factory is a risk. Any number of things could go wrong here, independent of overt maliciousness,-which no matter how nice the guy is, can't be ruled out without appropriate due diligence.
Personally, it's not remotely worth the risk, I don't care how many great reviews he's received.
It's just not ever a good idea to allow someone you don't trust IMPLICITLY unfettered access to anything electronic that you care about. Even then, there's always a risk unless they REALLY know what they're doing.
If I wasn't slammed at work I'd look into the implications personally.
Caveat Emptor.
Last edited by manifold danger; 08-07-2021 at 11:42 AM.
08-07-2021, 12:13 PM
#18
RL Community Team
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Asked about the PCM 6.0 upgrade in the Macan forum, led me to this guy.
Let me just say, this isn't a gaming system, it's a motor vehicle. Without understanding EXACTLY what changes are being made, it's important to understand that adjusting anything outside the parameters it came with from the factory is a risk. Any number of things could go wrong here, independent of overt maliciousness,-which no matter how nice the guy is, can't be ruled out without appropriate due diligence.
Personally, it's not remotely worth the risk, I don't care how many great reviews he's received.
It's just not ever a good idea to allow someone you don't trust IMPLICITLY unfettered access to anything electronic that you care about. Even then, there's always a risk unless they REALLY know what they're doing.
If I wasn't slammed at work I'd look into the implications personally.
Caveat Emptor.
Let me just say, this isn't a gaming system, it's a motor vehicle. Without understanding EXACTLY what changes are being made, it's important to understand that adjusting anything outside the parameters it came with from the factory is a risk. Any number of things could go wrong here, independent of overt maliciousness,-which no matter how nice the guy is, can't be ruled out without appropriate due diligence.
Personally, it's not remotely worth the risk, I don't care how many great reviews he's received.
It's just not ever a good idea to allow someone you don't trust IMPLICITLY unfettered access to anything electronic that you care about. Even then, there's always a risk unless they REALLY know what they're doing.
If I wasn't slammed at work I'd look into the implications personally.
Caveat Emptor.
So you don't have to take the time out of your busy schedule to read the huge thread, the short of it is the image on the headunit is having its theft security checks disabled, and then the headunit is being told "hey, this car has the rights to use Android Auto" through what are called feature enablement codes. Literally switches saying "this feature is usable". Nothing more. No additional code is being added to the system. It just enables the use of code that's already on the headunit, similar to what the dealership would do if you purchased navigation on a car that didn't have navigation from the factory for some reason.
08-07-2021, 12:36 PM
#19
contact him by WhatsApp at +381 65 3086899
as for security concerns… meh, I ain’t got **** anyone wants and I’m a MAC user. So I had to dig out an old windows PC to do this. It needed upgraded to current OS, so it was reset to factory (complete wipe) and upgraded to windows 10. Who doesn’t have an old POS computer you can wipe and use for your remote connection.
as for security concerns… meh, I ain’t got **** anyone wants and I’m a MAC user. So I had to dig out an old windows PC to do this. It needed upgraded to current OS, so it was reset to factory (complete wipe) and upgraded to windows 10. Who doesn’t have an old POS computer you can wipe and use for your remote connection.
08-07-2021, 01:27 PM
#21
08-07-2021, 02:22 PM
#22
don't want to post a price on his behalf, just not respectful to him IMO. Sorry, but I can answer in a PM.
wowow!!! Paranoid much? What data could he possibly steal and use against you? Really.
You know what I did? I bought a brand new laptop from wal Mart. I used that to let him connect to the car remotely. When he finished I returned the computer. Voila!
who gives a **** if he can *possibly see addresses you've put into navigation or MPG?
Asked about the PCM 6.0 upgrade in the Macan forum, led me to this guy.
Let me just say, this isn't a gaming system, it's a motor vehicle. Without understanding EXACTLY what changes are being made, it's important to understand that adjusting anything outside the parameters it came with from the factory is a risk. Any number of things could go wrong here, independent of overt maliciousness,-which no matter how nice the guy is, can't be ruled out without appropriate due diligence.
Personally, it's not remotely worth the risk, I don't care how many great reviews he's received.
It's just not ever a good idea to allow someone you don't trust IMPLICITLY unfettered access to anything electronic that you care about. Even then, there's always a risk unless they REALLY know what they're doing.
If I wasn't slammed at work I'd look into the implications personally.
Caveat Emptor.
Let me just say, this isn't a gaming system, it's a motor vehicle. Without understanding EXACTLY what changes are being made, it's important to understand that adjusting anything outside the parameters it came with from the factory is a risk. Any number of things could go wrong here, independent of overt maliciousness,-which no matter how nice the guy is, can't be ruled out without appropriate due diligence.
Personally, it's not remotely worth the risk, I don't care how many great reviews he's received.
It's just not ever a good idea to allow someone you don't trust IMPLICITLY unfettered access to anything electronic that you care about. Even then, there's always a risk unless they REALLY know what they're doing.
If I wasn't slammed at work I'd look into the implications personally.
Caveat Emptor.
You know what I did? I bought a brand new laptop from wal Mart. I used that to let him connect to the car remotely. When he finished I returned the computer. Voila!
who gives a **** if he can *possibly see addresses you've put into navigation or MPG?
08-07-2021, 07:09 PM
#23
Rennlist Member
Well, to be fair, he now has the address or at least the lat/long coordinates of someone with a head unit whose antitheft features have been disabled. 
That said, more power to him. If Porsche doesn't like it, they have no one to blame but themselves.
As for abusing return policies at WalMart or anywhere else, we all end up paying a little bit more when people do that sort of thing, but whatever.
That said, more power to him. If Porsche doesn't like it, they have no one to blame but themselves.
As for abusing return policies at WalMart or anywhere else, we all end up paying a little bit more when people do that sort of thing, but whatever.
08-07-2021, 08:17 PM
#24
Well, to be fair, he now has the address or at least the lat/long coordinates of someone with a head unit whose antitheft features have been disabled.
That said, more power to him. If Porsche doesn't like it, they have no one to blame but themselves.
As for abusing return policies at WalMart or anywhere else, we all end up paying a little bit more when people do that sort of thing, but whatever.
That said, more power to him. If Porsche doesn't like it, they have no one to blame but themselves.
As for abusing return policies at WalMart or anywhere else, we all end up paying a little bit more when people do that sort of thing, but whatever.
. Besides, it's a write off.Sorry for making you pay an extra few cents for great value Mac n cheese lol.
08-08-2021, 09:19 AM
#25
Three Wheelin'
The effort involved in doing what you're fearing here is comically high, all for a payoff of... what, reading a hooked up phone's emails and SMS? If you're trying to steal information from people, you don't take a single-random approach with a paper trail. That'd be idiotic; the vast majority of people (including 100% of the users on rennlist) are not that interesting. You either target someone interesting or you target everyone like conficker and blaster and the like.
So you don't have to take the time out of your busy schedule to read the huge thread, the short of it is the image on the headunit is having its theft security checks disabled, and then the headunit is being told "hey, this car has the rights to use Android Auto" through what are called feature enablement codes. Literally switches saying "this feature is usable". Nothing more. No additional code is being added to the system. It just enables the use of code that's already on the headunit, similar to what the dealership would do if you purchased navigation on a car that didn't have navigation from the factory for some reason.
So you don't have to take the time out of your busy schedule to read the huge thread, the short of it is the image on the headunit is having its theft security checks disabled, and then the headunit is being told "hey, this car has the rights to use Android Auto" through what are called feature enablement codes. Literally switches saying "this feature is usable". Nothing more. No additional code is being added to the system. It just enables the use of code that's already on the headunit, similar to what the dealership would do if you purchased navigation on a car that didn't have navigation from the factory for some reason.
Again, I haven't done the research so at this point my posts are just my personal take based on pretty much nothing but anecdotes from past experience and a general knowledge of digital security... but still. At its core the PCM is a computer (probably a Linux OS under everything if I were to guess) that is tied to the rest of the electronics in the vehicle. Electronics control a lot, and are finicky at best, even from the factory. Unless you're also an expert in how the PCM ties in and functions with all the other electronics it's involved with, and can follow and know EXACTLY what they guy is changing, I think it's appropriate to be paranoid.
I've already said, conspiracy theories aside, if full due diligence isn't applied then things can easily go wrong- whether the guy is trying to steal your personal info or remotely control your car's throttle inputs or not. I agree that would be idiotic and not a very good business practice so it's unlikely, but that's not my primary point of concern.
All I'm saying, is that these are $100k+ automobiles, and you guys are apparently cool with letting randos off facebook dial in from Eastern Europe to **** with your car's brains. I'm not.
Last edited by manifold danger; 08-08-2021 at 09:20 AM.
08-08-2021, 09:36 AM
#26
Three Wheelin'
don't want to post a price on his behalf, just not respectful to him IMO. Sorry, but I can answer in a PM.
wowow!!! Paranoid much? What data could he possibly steal and use against you? Really.
You know what I did? I bought a brand new laptop from wal Mart. I used that to let him connect to the car remotely. When he finished I returned the computer. Voila!
who gives a **** if he can *possibly see addresses you've put into navigation or MPG?
wowow!!! Paranoid much? What data could he possibly steal and use against you? Really.
You know what I did? I bought a brand new laptop from wal Mart. I used that to let him connect to the car remotely. When he finished I returned the computer. Voila!
who gives a **** if he can *possibly see addresses you've put into navigation or MPG?
So since you seem to be an expert, do you know exactly what he did to your car's PCM?
If so, how exactly do you know that? Because you followed along on your "borrowed" laptop's screen?
Did you have wireshark or similar installed to monitor all incoming/outgoing network traffic? Did you save the recording? Would you mind sharing with me?
Did you have an EDR product or some other sort of tool to monitor all activity on the borrowed laptop (not just what was shown on the screen)? What about the car's PCM? What sort of tool could you use to monitor and/or record ALL activity in the car's PCM? (if such a tool exists I'm genuinely interested...)
Was anything installed? How could you tell if it was or wasn't, are you just going on his word? If anything was installed, have you reviewed the source code to tell EXACTLY what the software does? Were there any strange or hidden functions embedded within the code that would, let's just say, continuously monitor your GPS coordinates? Listen in on your phone conversations/email correspondence/text messages? Access your calendar? Send emails/text messages on your behalf? Intercept and reconstruct electronic inputs to things like throttle, A/F ratio, intake/exhaust air temperature, coolant temperature, etc. etc. etc.
If not, HOW WOULD YOU KNOW?
This is just off the top of my head. If you can't answer any one of these questions, you shouldn't have let anyone hook into your car remotely.
Last edited by manifold danger; 08-08-2021 at 09:37 AM.
08-08-2021, 10:24 AM
#27
Nordschleife Master
Cool, you had the sense to not use your personal or work laptop to let him dial in to your car.
So since you seem to be an expert, do you know exactly what he did to your car's PCM?
If so, how exactly do you know that? Because you followed along on your "borrowed" laptop's screen?
Did you have wireshark or similar installed to monitor all incoming/outgoing network traffic? Did you save the recording? Would you mind sharing with me?
Did you have an EDR product or some other sort of tool to monitor all activity on the borrowed laptop (not just what was shown on the screen)? What about the car's PCM? What sort of tool could you use to monitor and/or record ALL activity in the car's PCM? (if such a tool exists I'm genuinely interested...)
Was anything installed? How could you tell if it was or wasn't, are you just going on his word? If anything was installed, have you reviewed the source code to tell EXACTLY what the software does? Were there any strange or hidden functions embedded within the code that would, let's just say, continuously monitor your GPS coordinates? Listen in on your phone conversations/email correspondence/text messages? Access your calendar? Send emails/text messages on your behalf? Intercept and reconstruct electronic inputs to things like throttle, A/F ratio, intake/exhaust air temperature, coolant temperature, etc. etc. etc.
If not, HOW WOULD YOU KNOW?
This is just off the top of my head. If you can't answer any one of these questions, you shouldn't have let anyone hook into your car remotely.
So since you seem to be an expert, do you know exactly what he did to your car's PCM?
If so, how exactly do you know that? Because you followed along on your "borrowed" laptop's screen?
Did you have wireshark or similar installed to monitor all incoming/outgoing network traffic? Did you save the recording? Would you mind sharing with me?
Did you have an EDR product or some other sort of tool to monitor all activity on the borrowed laptop (not just what was shown on the screen)? What about the car's PCM? What sort of tool could you use to monitor and/or record ALL activity in the car's PCM? (if such a tool exists I'm genuinely interested...)
Was anything installed? How could you tell if it was or wasn't, are you just going on his word? If anything was installed, have you reviewed the source code to tell EXACTLY what the software does? Were there any strange or hidden functions embedded within the code that would, let's just say, continuously monitor your GPS coordinates? Listen in on your phone conversations/email correspondence/text messages? Access your calendar? Send emails/text messages on your behalf? Intercept and reconstruct electronic inputs to things like throttle, A/F ratio, intake/exhaust air temperature, coolant temperature, etc. etc. etc.
If not, HOW WOULD YOU KNOW?
This is just off the top of my head. If you can't answer any one of these questions, you shouldn't have let anyone hook into your car remotely.
For that matter, the same applies to Joyauto, NM Auto, etc.
If you have any Amazon Dot, Echo, or any other brand, same questions apply. Amazon and Google know more about you than you think and guaranteed more than simaservis would.
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cause he never responded lol
08-08-2021, 05:27 PM
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