PPF and/or Ceramic Coat?
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3.5 years and 30K miles in and I have driven my car like I stole it. I put tires on the roof, in my back seat, and hammer it the best I can on the track. PPF in front of the rear wheels, at the front of my car and in a few areas where folks decided to drop something on my car, is really beat up. Below is almost perfect paint so I can replace the PPF and have essentially a brand new looking car. PPF gives me the freedom to care a little less but still keep the ride beautiful. May replace with stealth PPF so I have a new look.
It is just a piece of mind thing for me. It does not crinkle like my Grandma's sofa, so it is not exactly the same. I miss Grandma...
It is just a piece of mind thing for me. It does not crinkle like my Grandma's sofa, so it is not exactly the same. I miss Grandma...
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PAPorscheGuy (04-20-2021)
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Like most people on here, had the paint corrected, did a full front xpel paint protection film (full hood, full front fenders and bumper). Also have them do the xpel clear bra on the side skirts and entire rear wheel arch.
once the xpel ppf was on, they ceramic coated the whole car, brake calipers and wheels.
I’ve had porsches before that I didn’t go through all of this with, and it really just gives you a lot of peace of mind when driving. I feel more comfortable doing more with it, and the xpel has certainly saved me a lot of paint chips. I have a few rock chips on the xpel, but at the end of every season you can either take it into the shop and have them heat up the ppf to repair it or if you feel comfortable, DIY. They are usually self healing clear bras and can be fixed easily if you get minor scratches or damage.
once the xpel ppf was on, they ceramic coated the whole car, brake calipers and wheels.
I’ve had porsches before that I didn’t go through all of this with, and it really just gives you a lot of peace of mind when driving. I feel more comfortable doing more with it, and the xpel has certainly saved me a lot of paint chips. I have a few rock chips on the xpel, but at the end of every season you can either take it into the shop and have them heat up the ppf to repair it or if you feel comfortable, DIY. They are usually self healing clear bras and can be fixed easily if you get minor scratches or damage.
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PAPorscheGuy (04-18-2021)
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the original owner of my 2013 C2S had the entire car PPF'd when new. didn't take deliver until it was applied. I purchased it last summer (am the 2nd owner) and was amazed at how good it still looked. being 8 years old, it obviously wasn't perfect but still very impressive clarity/shine/adhesion. even the engine lid slats/exposed to all that heat still look great. would have to assume the paint underneath is in fact near perfect too?...which has me thinking just remove the film if/when it starts looking ratty?. still has lots of life left so i'll worry about that when it happens
judging from the cost to get it done right ($5k in 2013), highly doubt i'd ever pay that much to have it done. Ceramic would be my choice but primarily for cost/value. fraction of the cost and works well too if applied properly. but if you have the loot to burn, a pro PPF application would be awesome imho.
judging from the cost to get it done right ($5k in 2013), highly doubt i'd ever pay that much to have it done. Ceramic would be my choice but primarily for cost/value. fraction of the cost and works well too if applied properly. but if you have the loot to burn, a pro PPF application would be awesome imho.
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I had the same experience with my 2014 991.1 C2S purchased last June. The PO had the front half of the fenders and hood, along with the front end, completed years ago. I got the car with 36K and the front looked in very good shape for a 6 year old car that was driven. I took it to Appearance Solutions in Sacramento and Mike and histeam did an awesome job of removing the old, paint correcting the entire car and then installed the full front end end, doors, rear hips and behind the rear wheels. Then applied ceramic coating to the complete car. The car looked brand new! Here we are 8K miles of hard driving later and it looks like the day I picked it up. Well worth the $$ as I have never owned a car worthy of such a spa treatment. The PPF is what is going to keep your car looking good over the long haul.
Good Luck,
Good Luck,
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the original owner of my 2013 C2S had the entire car PPF'd when new. didn't take deliver until it was applied. I purchased it last summer (am the 2nd owner) and was amazed at how good it still looked. being 8 years old, it obviously wasn't perfect but still very impressive clarity/shine/adhesion. even the engine lid slats/exposed to all that heat still look great. would have to assume the paint underneath is in fact near perfect too?...which has me thinking just remove the film if/when it starts looking ratty?. still has lots of life left so i'll worry about that when it happens
judging from the cost to get it done right ($5k in 2013), highly doubt i'd ever pay that much to have it done. Ceramic would be my choice but primarily for cost/value. fraction of the cost and works well too if applied properly. but if you have the loot to burn, a pro PPF application would be awesome imho.
judging from the cost to get it done right ($5k in 2013), highly doubt i'd ever pay that much to have it done. Ceramic would be my choice but primarily for cost/value. fraction of the cost and works well too if applied properly. but if you have the loot to burn, a pro PPF application would be awesome imho.
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Agree with the previous post.
And the new PPF films are far better than what your '13 has on it. The PPF I put on my present 911 in 2018 is so much better than what was on my previous 2015 911. No wavyness, harder exterior suffrage, and really beads up water on it. Can't tell the difference between PPF canned and bare paint on this one. It was easy to see where the PPF wason my 2015 911. And the old films also yellow from UV exposure.
If going to keep that 911 for a while, I'd replace the the PPF.
And the new PPF films are far better than what your '13 has on it. The PPF I put on my present 911 in 2018 is so much better than what was on my previous 2015 911. No wavyness, harder exterior suffrage, and really beads up water on it. Can't tell the difference between PPF canned and bare paint on this one. It was easy to see where the PPF wason my 2015 911. And the old films also yellow from UV exposure.
If going to keep that 911 for a while, I'd replace the the PPF.
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PAPorscheGuy (04-20-2021)
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I could recommend a couple of installers local to me but I think I'm probably ~two hours from you. Suggest you ask members of PCA for recommendations in your area.
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PAPorscheGuy (04-20-2021)
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Thanks. Great idea. Will do. There is a ceramic pro near. My M3 was CarPro.
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I did PPF and ceramic three years ago. I had a car show scheduled today so I took the beast to the original installer for a refresh. After he washed it he said there was no need for a refresh. Ceramic still holding up. $150 for a detail and the car looks like new. That's 3 years no polish/wax. I use Reload every few months. Unfortunately, the car show was rained out.
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