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Old Mar 25, 2021 | 08:07 AM
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https://www.pca.org/news/2021-03-23/...che-911-market

Not what I read here.
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Old Mar 25, 2021 | 08:27 AM
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Yeah, not according to listed prices, at least. List price and sale price are not the same, of course. And some of the independent dealers seem to have more reasonable prices, which may better reflect sale price reality. I definitely have noticed that Porsche dealer prices have gone up on 991.1 and 991.2s over the last six months, because I've had a few reach out to me to try to buy my 991.1 so they can flip it. (But not for anything close to what I'd consider, especially with the premium on 991.2s or 991.1S or GTS, which is the only thing I'd consider trading in for.)
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Old Mar 25, 2021 | 08:31 AM
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"depreciating at a perceptible rate" does not sound like the bottom is falling out.
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Old Mar 25, 2021 | 10:03 AM
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Demand is higher than normal because the 992 cars are ridiculously expensive compared to 991. A high-spec 992 C2/4 coupe is ~160K+. Recently a chalk 992 Turbo S cab was at a local dealer listed at 268K.
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Old Mar 25, 2021 | 10:36 AM
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I'm convinced the author of the article didn't do any research on the 991 market. I'd argue the prices are actually flat lined if not even increased a bit since the pandemic. And as someone who purchased a 991.1 only a year ago but have been monitoring prices for several years, it very much feels like we're at the bottom of the depreciation curve.
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Old Mar 25, 2021 | 11:27 AM
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Ummmm yah, 991.1 prices are holding very steady if not increasing slightly. Whether or not this holds, I don't know but at least for right now, that seem's to be the trend. My friend just sold his 2015 C2S manual with mid 30k mileage on pcarmarket for $81k!.
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Old Mar 25, 2021 | 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Gary JR
"depreciating at a perceptible rate" does not sound like the bottom is falling out.
100% accurate statement here. How can one standardize a measurement of "perceptible rate"?

The other part of the article compares a well optioned 997 Carrera S with a base 991. It seems like trying to shoehorn for the sake of argument to prove a point, not apples to apples. He then continues with the same theme with high mileage Cabrio PDK against what he calls an "outstanding 996 C4S", not oranges to oranges here either.

Anyone's guess is a good as the writer's. We just don't know what the market is doing.

To me it sounds like the writer wants to get a 991 but not willing to pay the price.

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Old Mar 25, 2021 | 01:53 PM
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I don't know and really don't care. What I do know is that my Gt3 that was purchased just about 16 months ago, is worth a little more than what I paid for it.
This is going off of internet sales, and BaT sales.

Really how cares? If you are not selling or buying are you affected? It's like current house prices, if you are not in the market, it's not real money.
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Sold my 991.1 C2S with 48k miles for $78k a month ago...had an offer at $80k but too late as the deal was done.
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Old Mar 25, 2021 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by SoCal C2S
Sold my 991.1 C2S with 48k miles for $78k a month ago...had an offer at $80k but too late as the deal was done.
oh wow. ill be willing to sell my .1 C2S w/32k miles for $78k too haha
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Old Mar 25, 2021 | 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by garfunkle
Remember when everyone thought Bitcoin peaked at like 1k?
Wait. That means my car will be worth $4 Million soon. This is great news!

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Old Mar 25, 2021 | 03:29 PM
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I would like to know where these cheap 991.1s are.
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Old Mar 25, 2021 | 03:50 PM
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The author of that article appears to have his head up his ***.
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Old Mar 25, 2021 | 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by mjposner
Maybe someone should write an article saying the NA (991.1) car prices are nearing a crossover point with the turbo (991.2) cars like this one for Ferrari 458/488 from Carscoops. Following the Ferrari model, (488 new in 2015) there is one more year before 991.1 start to flatten with 991.2.

Used Ferrari 488s Now Cost Less Than 458s As Customers Value The Latter’s Naturally Aspirated V8

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Old Mar 25, 2021 | 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Stealth 993
If you are not selling or buying are you affected? It's like current house prices, if you are not in the market, it's not real money.

Really? Never heard of HELC at dirt cheap interest rates while you keep your money invested instead of paying it off?
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