Am I going to regret buying a 911 instead of a Cayman?
#61
That's not entirely a true statement. Even for those of us that can "stretch" to a 911 without really stretching anything sometimes you just don't want one. I'll go further. The GT4 is the only Porsche I ever had the desire to buy and likely will be the only one ever put the in garage. The only exception being if the wife has to replace the dog transporter at some point. Can't buy a chinesium Volvo so the Macan is a viable replacement.
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JaguarXJ6 (11-06-2020)
#63
I think you mean sports car, singular, as they only make one other sports car, the 718. Porsche is an SUV company that sells sports cars on the side. Actually, I should say, sells GT cars and sports cars on the side, given how big and soft the 911 has grown over the years.
Last edited by Archimedes; 09-01-2020 at 03:34 PM.
#64
I think you mean sports car, singular, as they only make one other sports car, the 718. Porsche is an SUV company that sells sports cars on the side. Actually, I should say, sells GT cars and sports cars on the side, given how big and soft the 911 has grown over the years.
Last edited by MidEngineRules; 09-01-2020 at 03:52 PM.
#65
If I lucked out and got a high MSRP 981 Cayman GTS with X73 and gearbox of choice, I just might want to keep it for awhile. Anything else, including a GT4 (redefines harsh), probably not.
#66
I sold my '14 991.1 S, and bought a '17 718 S. Neither car is a "stretch". I'll probably add a GT 3 to the stable at some point, when regular track events are a thing again. (718 is faster than my .1 S at VIR)
To be 100% honest, I should have kept my 911 when I got the 718, as it was more comfortable on very long drives, but 5 cars with just 2 drivers, and a 2 car garage was getting to be a pain.
To be 100% honest, I should have kept my 911 when I got the 718, as it was more comfortable on very long drives, but 5 cars with just 2 drivers, and a 2 car garage was getting to be a pain.
#67
My experience:
987.1 Cayman S MT: Great car! , traded for
981 Cayman GTS MT: Great car!, traded for:
991.2 Carrera GTS MT: Great car! (current)
718 Boxster base MT: Great car! (current): on back roads in nice weather with the top down, and RPMs always above 3K, arguably the most fun of the lot
987.1 Cayman S MT: Great car! , traded for
981 Cayman GTS MT: Great car!, traded for:
991.2 Carrera GTS MT: Great car! (current)
718 Boxster base MT: Great car! (current): on back roads in nice weather with the top down, and RPMs always above 3K, arguably the most fun of the lot
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AlexCeres (09-02-2020)
#68
#70
I briefly looked at Caymans while shopping for my first Porsche. The things that turned me off of the Cayman were:
- Tighter interior for a large guy (6' 2", 220 lbs). With the mid engine layout, the seat only goes back so much... 911 has lots of leg room and cabin space in general.
- Dash gauges only have 3 gauge circles instead of 5. The classic 5 gauge circle dash layout is a must.
- The mid engine layout is less intriguing than the rear engine layout. I want to be challenged and to earn the satisfaction of mastering a special platform.
- The mid engine layout makes DYI maintenance more difficult. Even though the 911 engine only reveals a couple cooling fans when you open the engine cover, the maintenance is still not bad at all when you learn how to take the bumper cover off.
- Oh yeah, and the 911 is the flagship.
As for maintenance, the cayman/boxster is much easier to work on than a 911. Sounds like you have done any maintenance on a boxster/cayman.
Ive owned both. The box/cayman is the better platform for going fast. Such is life
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ducktails (09-01-2020)
#71
im 6’3”. Already been in the cayman and barely fit. I mean barely, but comfortably. Seat is touching the firewall and only have about 1” of headroom. Not going to be able to have a helmet on in there.
will have another person sometimes. mostly myself.
typical pleasure drive will be an hour or two. I do want to take road trips in the car, which is kinda the point of this car for me. I figured the cayman with the trunk and frunk would be good enough. I’m guessing you’re about to tell me otherwise.
will have another person sometimes. mostly myself.
typical pleasure drive will be an hour or two. I do want to take road trips in the car, which is kinda the point of this car for me. I figured the cayman with the trunk and frunk would be good enough. I’m guessing you’re about to tell me otherwise.
I do think the 991 has more luggage room, and can even fit a wheel and tire behind the front seats.
#72
Once upon a time (around 50 years ago to be more exact probably before some of you were born) there was a little car called a 911 that I took out for a drive. It was an amazing little machine that felt like nothing (back then I owned Triumphs, MG's and JH's) else on the road. Fifty years later I've owned 45 Porsche's (built a few dozen one off ones mostly for people with money who didn't like what the 911 had become I also built the most crazy one for myself), and though I would still take the 911 over any of the Ferrari's, Lamborghini's, BMW's AMG's I have owned. The 911 is not what it once was. It is big and it is heavy (not by todays standards but to an old timer like me), which is why I've own/owned cars like the 4C, Evora 400 (manual of course), 500 Abarth, Miata. OP ask yourself what purpose you have for the car, most people are not like me (most people are not about to buy car #486 either), I think no car is that good out of the box so there is always a few things I need to do to it to make it something I want to drive. 911's or even Porsche's are not for everyone, but I would never recommend buying something that does not suit your purpose simply because it is there and is at the right price point. For 70K I'd buy a 4C or a used Evora 400, or even an AMG GTS (there is a highly modified one in one of my garages that is a keeper). I have also owned 62 BMW's (have a modified 2020 M550 now) which are very different driving experiences than a 911 or Cayman. You will not duplicate those experiences you had in a BMW M car in a Porsche. I have owned 3 mid engine Porsche's my favorite was the first a 2001 Boxster S, it was light, handled well (after some changes) and had a steering feel that no longer exist in a Porsche. Yes, this is a Porsche forum, but not everyone needs can be filled by owning one. Good luck.
#73
Once upon a time (around 50 years ago to be more exact probably before some of you were born) there was a little car called a 911 that I took out for a drive. It was an amazing little machine that felt like nothing (back then I owned Triumphs, MG's and JH's) else on the road. Fifty years later I've owned 45 Porsche's (built a few dozen one off ones mostly for people with money who didn't like what the 911 had become I also built the most crazy one for myself), and though I would still take the 911 over any of the Ferrari's, Lamborghini's, BMW's AMG's I have owned. The 911 is not what it once was. It is big and it is heavy (not by todays standards but to an old timer like me), which is why I've own/owned cars like the 4C, Evora 400 (manual of course), 500 Abarth, Miata. OP ask yourself what purpose you have for the car, most people are not like me (most people are not about to buy car #486 either), I think no car is that good out of the box so there is always a few things I need to do to it to make it something I want to drive. 911's or even Porsche's are not for everyone, but I would never recommend buying something that does not suit your purpose simply because it is there and is at the right price point. For 70K I'd buy a 4C or a used Evora 400, or even an AMG GTS (there is a highly modified one in one of my garages that is a keeper). I have also owned 62 BMW's (have a modified 2020 M550 now) which are very different driving experiences than a 911 or Cayman. You will not duplicate those experiences you had in a BMW M car in a Porsche. I have owned 3 mid engine Porsche's my favorite was the first a 2001 Boxster S, it was light, handled well (after some changes) and had a steering feel that no longer exist in a Porsche. Yes, this is a Porsche forum, but not everyone needs can be filled by owning one. Good luck.
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GT3FZS (09-02-2020)
#74
Once upon a time (around 50 years ago to be more exact probably before some of you were born) there was a little car called a 911 that I took out for a drive. It was an amazing little machine that felt like nothing (back then I owned Triumphs, MG's and JH's) else on the road. Fifty years later I've owned 45 Porsche's (built a few dozen one off ones mostly for people with money who didn't like what the 911 had become I also built the most crazy one for myself), and though I would still take the 911 over any of the Ferrari's, Lamborghini's, BMW's AMG's I have owned. The 911 is not what it once was. It is big and it is heavy (not by todays standards but to an old timer like me), which is why I've own/owned cars like the 4C, Evora 400 (manual of course), 500 Abarth, Miata. OP ask yourself what purpose you have for the car, most people are not like me (most people are not about to buy car #486 either), I think no car is that good out of the box so there is always a few things I need to do to it to make it something I want to drive. 911's or even Porsche's are not for everyone, but I would never recommend buying something that does not suit your purpose simply because it is there and is at the right price point. For 70K I'd buy a 4C or a used Evora 400, or even an AMG GTS (there is a highly modified one in one of my garages that is a keeper). I have also owned 62 BMW's (have a modified 2020 M550 now) which are very different driving experiences than a 911 or Cayman. You will not duplicate those experiences you had in a BMW M car in a Porsche. I have owned 3 mid engine Porsche's my favorite was the first a 2001 Boxster S, it was light, handled well (after some changes) and had a steering feel that no longer exist in a Porsche. Yes, this is a Porsche forum, but not everyone needs can be filled by owning one. Good luck.
#75
I have read this thread in its entirety as I have owned both cars. IMO forget about the stereotypes with owning a Cayman vs 911-get what YOU want and not what everyone else wants you to get. At the end it really comes down to what you plan to do with the car. If you are going to track it-get a Cayman. If you are going to daily/street drive it/put it on the track once in a while, get a 911. If you ever think you will need backseats-then your only option is the 911.