APR PDK Tune
08-12-2020, 04:01 PM
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APR PDK Tune
I thought i would keep this seperate so it doesn’t get buried on the engine tuning threads.
Tyler had mentioned an APR PDK tune that fixes the shift issue. It appears when you highly mod and tune, you exceed the factory setting torque limit on the PDK and occasionally it will refuse a shift. It will stay in the same gear and rev back out and then shift.
I don’t want to turn power down, i want to increase it, so this needs to be fixed.
I have spoked to MoTeC and Calibrated Performance, they write the software. They said Golf’s had a similar issue where if torque exceeded 590N/m it would refuse the shift.
they intercept the signal, and change it to always read 580N/m so it will make the shift.
We know the PDK can handle insane levels of torque, so this is not a concern. But i have been waiting over a year for MoTeC.
i want this gone now. Nothing worse than following a GT2-RS onto the straight, and pulling out to over take it and the car refuses the shift and you don’t get it done.
Luckily the 2-RS taps the brakes and lets you go by, as he doesn’t want anymore paint rubbed off his rear bumper. 🤣
Ideally I would love to see APR sell their PDK tune separately now. As their ability to switch tunes at home, won’t be this year.
C’mon Tyler, hook us up Brother.
Tyler had mentioned an APR PDK tune that fixes the shift issue. It appears when you highly mod and tune, you exceed the factory setting torque limit on the PDK and occasionally it will refuse a shift. It will stay in the same gear and rev back out and then shift.
I don’t want to turn power down, i want to increase it, so this needs to be fixed.
I have spoked to MoTeC and Calibrated Performance, they write the software. They said Golf’s had a similar issue where if torque exceeded 590N/m it would refuse the shift.
they intercept the signal, and change it to always read 580N/m so it will make the shift.
We know the PDK can handle insane levels of torque, so this is not a concern. But i have been waiting over a year for MoTeC.
i want this gone now. Nothing worse than following a GT2-RS onto the straight, and pulling out to over take it and the car refuses the shift and you don’t get it done.
Luckily the 2-RS taps the brakes and lets you go by, as he doesn’t want anymore paint rubbed off his rear bumper. 🤣
Ideally I would love to see APR sell their PDK tune separately now. As their ability to switch tunes at home, won’t be this year.
C’mon Tyler, hook us up Brother.
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e46_ema (10-21-2021)
08-12-2020, 07:14 PM
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You dont need the PDK tune to remedy the shift, you need a different tune. Cobb has been unable to figure it out APR has.
As you are aware, I have had the APR tune on my car for two weeks now and not a single problem shifting...
However, the car is not as fast as the previous Pro Tune, proven by multiple Dragy tests and my butt dyno, and the power comes on much smoother and linear.
It was a trade off I was "willing" to make, but in your case I don't think I would be. With my Targa weight, I will never be the fastest GTS or track the car.
I am accepting of the trade off in speed for the more gradual power and decrease in overall performance. Don't get me wrong, I would love it all, but this way is the better of two choices for me.
Going in tomorrow for intercoolers and inlets. Why? I have no idea. I regret buying them now but, since I already own the stuff I am going to go forward and install it.
Maybe it will help with the current high temps maybe it wont do a thing.
As you are aware, I have had the APR tune on my car for two weeks now and not a single problem shifting...
However, the car is not as fast as the previous Pro Tune, proven by multiple Dragy tests and my butt dyno, and the power comes on much smoother and linear.
It was a trade off I was "willing" to make, but in your case I don't think I would be. With my Targa weight, I will never be the fastest GTS or track the car.
I am accepting of the trade off in speed for the more gradual power and decrease in overall performance. Don't get me wrong, I would love it all, but this way is the better of two choices for me.
Going in tomorrow for intercoolers and inlets. Why? I have no idea. I regret buying them now but, since I already own the stuff I am going to go forward and install it.
Maybe it will help with the current high temps maybe it wont do a thing.
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08-12-2020, 08:35 PM
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I thought i would keep this seperate so it doesn’t get buried on the engine tuning threads.
Tyler had mentioned an APR PDK tune that fixes the shift issue. It appears when you highly mod and tune, you exceed the factory setting torque limit on the PDK and occasionally it will refuse a shift. It will stay in the same gear and rev back out and then shift.
I don’t want to turn power down, i want to increase it, so this needs to be fixed.
I have spoked to MoTeC and Calibrated Performance, they write the software. They said Golf’s had a similar issue where if torque exceeded 590N/m it would refuse the shift.
they intercept the signal, and change it to always read 580N/m so it will make the shift.
We know the PDK can handle insane levels of torque, so this is not a concern. But i have been waiting over a year for MoTeC.
i want this gone now. Nothing worse than following a GT2-RS onto the straight, and pulling out to over take it and the car refuses the shift and you don’t get it done.
Luckily the 2-RS taps the brakes and lets you go by, as he doesn’t want anymore paint rubbed off his rear bumper. 🤣
Ideally I would love to see APR sell their PDK tune separately now. As their ability to switch tunes at home, won’t be this year.
C’mon Tyler, hook us up Brother.
Tyler had mentioned an APR PDK tune that fixes the shift issue. It appears when you highly mod and tune, you exceed the factory setting torque limit on the PDK and occasionally it will refuse a shift. It will stay in the same gear and rev back out and then shift.
I don’t want to turn power down, i want to increase it, so this needs to be fixed.
I have spoked to MoTeC and Calibrated Performance, they write the software. They said Golf’s had a similar issue where if torque exceeded 590N/m it would refuse the shift.
they intercept the signal, and change it to always read 580N/m so it will make the shift.
We know the PDK can handle insane levels of torque, so this is not a concern. But i have been waiting over a year for MoTeC.
i want this gone now. Nothing worse than following a GT2-RS onto the straight, and pulling out to over take it and the car refuses the shift and you don’t get it done.
Luckily the 2-RS taps the brakes and lets you go by, as he doesn’t want anymore paint rubbed off his rear bumper. 🤣
Ideally I would love to see APR sell their PDK tune separately now. As their ability to switch tunes at home, won’t be this year.
C’mon Tyler, hook us up Brother.
We will be selling the pdk tune, we are still finishing some development on it, but will be releasing all the models at once when do release. No eta at the moment but we are aiming for before the year is up.
You dont need the PDK tune to remedy the shift, you need a different tune. Cobb has been unable to figure it out APR has.
As you are aware, I have had the APR tune on my car for two weeks now and not a single problem shifting...
However, the car is not as fast as the previous Pro Tune, proven by multiple Dragy tests and my butt dyno, and the power comes on much smoother and linear.
It was a trade off I was "willing" to make, but in your case I don't think I would be. With my Targa weight, I will never be the fastest GTS or track the car.
I am accepting of the trade off in speed for the more gradual power and decrease in overall performance. Don't get me wrong, I would love it all, but this way is the better of two choices for me.
Going in tomorrow for intercoolers and inlets. Why? I have no idea. I regret buying them now but, since I already own the stuff I am going to go forward and install it.
Maybe it will help with the current high temps maybe it wont do a thing.
As you are aware, I have had the APR tune on my car for two weeks now and not a single problem shifting...
However, the car is not as fast as the previous Pro Tune, proven by multiple Dragy tests and my butt dyno, and the power comes on much smoother and linear.
It was a trade off I was "willing" to make, but in your case I don't think I would be. With my Targa weight, I will never be the fastest GTS or track the car.
I am accepting of the trade off in speed for the more gradual power and decrease in overall performance. Don't get me wrong, I would love it all, but this way is the better of two choices for me.
Going in tomorrow for intercoolers and inlets. Why? I have no idea. I regret buying them now but, since I already own the stuff I am going to go forward and install it.
Maybe it will help with the current high temps maybe it wont do a thing.
Also please send me these draggys in a pm please. There is no reason our performance should be slower. I would like to see this. Thanks. And also remember to use sport or sport plus. Normal mode and Sport make different power.
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08-13-2020, 12:48 AM
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I thought i would keep this seperate so it doesn’t get buried on the engine tuning threads.
Tyler had mentioned an APR PDK tune that fixes the shift issue. It appears when you highly mod and tune, you exceed the factory setting torque limit on the PDK and occasionally it will refuse a shift. It will stay in the same gear and rev back out and then shift.
I don’t want to turn power down, i want to increase it, so this needs to be fixed.
I have spoked to MoTeC and Calibrated Performance, they write the software. They said Golf’s had a similar issue where if torque exceeded 590N/m it would refuse the shift.
they intercept the signal, and change it to always read 580N/m so it will make the shift.
We know the PDK can handle insane levels of torque, so this is not a concern. But i have been waiting over a year for MoTeC.
i want this gone now. Nothing worse than following a GT2-RS onto the straight, and pulling out to over take it and the car refuses the shift and you don’t get it done.
Luckily the 2-RS taps the brakes and lets you go by, as he doesn’t want anymore paint rubbed off his rear bumper. 🤣
Ideally I would love to see APR sell their PDK tune separately now. As their ability to switch tunes at home, won’t be this year.
C’mon Tyler, hook us up Brother.
Tyler had mentioned an APR PDK tune that fixes the shift issue. It appears when you highly mod and tune, you exceed the factory setting torque limit on the PDK and occasionally it will refuse a shift. It will stay in the same gear and rev back out and then shift.
I don’t want to turn power down, i want to increase it, so this needs to be fixed.
I have spoked to MoTeC and Calibrated Performance, they write the software. They said Golf’s had a similar issue where if torque exceeded 590N/m it would refuse the shift.
they intercept the signal, and change it to always read 580N/m so it will make the shift.
We know the PDK can handle insane levels of torque, so this is not a concern. But i have been waiting over a year for MoTeC.
i want this gone now. Nothing worse than following a GT2-RS onto the straight, and pulling out to over take it and the car refuses the shift and you don’t get it done.
Luckily the 2-RS taps the brakes and lets you go by, as he doesn’t want anymore paint rubbed off his rear bumper. 🤣
Ideally I would love to see APR sell their PDK tune separately now. As their ability to switch tunes at home, won’t be this year.
C’mon Tyler, hook us up Brother.
08-13-2020, 08:03 AM
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So what else is cooking? Map switching? Rolling Launch control 😁
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08-13-2020, 12:21 PM
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We are working now on more pdk platforms before releasing, 991.2 Turbo development, at home flashing is still in the works and few other quite exciting projects.
08-13-2020, 01:39 PM
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Yeah I can agree with you there. It was an issue once we experienced that we looked into for quite some time to get rid of. Now the PDK runs 9s and doesn't skip a beat or have any problem holding the power or making the shifts.
We are working now on more pdk platforms before releasing, 991.2 Turbo development, at home flashing is still in the works and few other quite exciting projects.
We are working now on more pdk platforms before releasing, 991.2 Turbo development, at home flashing is still in the works and few other quite exciting projects.
What else can we expect on the new exciting projects part? Rolling lauch as mentioned above seems like a cool feature!
08-13-2020, 03:05 PM
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You have a Cobb tune now correct?
If so this has been fixed by the guys at @M Engineering a long time ago like 6 weeks ago actually? My car is running E85 all the time now but i still have my 93 tune available as i run a full tank of 93 every oil change just to clean out the system.
I have no shift issues with either tune. I'ts very smooth
Nothing against APR they are doing some amazing stuff as well but seeing how you already spent the money on the Cobb it makes no sense to throw it away.
You have a Cobb tune now correct?
If so this has been fixed by the guys at @M Engineering a long time ago like 6 weeks ago actually? My car is running E85 all the time now but i still have my 93 tune available as i run a full tank of 93 every oil change just to clean out the system.
I have no shift issues with either tune. I'ts very smooth
Nothing against APR they are doing some amazing stuff as well but seeing how you already spent the money on the Cobb it makes no sense to throw it away.
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09-21-2020, 05:34 AM
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Yes, we have experienced and fixed this issue so many have run into with our PDK software. No ECU changes. It is important to fix the PDK side correctly and not just limit the tq value going across. Accurate tq reporting is very important especially to have the clutch apply as needed.
We will be selling the pdk tune, we are still finishing some development on it, but will be releasing all the models at once when do release. No eta at the moment but we are aiming for before the year is up.
We will be selling the pdk tune, we are still finishing some development on it, but will be releasing all the models at once when do release. No eta at the moment but we are aiming for before the year is up.
(The first looser. No one remembers who comes second. )
09-21-2020, 12:25 PM
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Pdk is coming along great. We are working on the 991.2 Turbo Finally. So once that is finished up and the GT3RS then I will expect us to prepare to release all the models at once. I do not see any models getting released before another at this time.
09-21-2020, 12:30 PM
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FVD has is now FWIW.
09-21-2020, 02:47 PM
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I do not see why we couldn't do that. Basically just need to be put on the schedule and determined how important it is at that time.
Right now the release will just be for the 991.2.
Right now the release will just be for the 991.2.
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