All season tires
#1
All season tires
I know this is sacrilege but has anyone considered putting all season tires on their 911? I considered winter tires but I would never drive the car in the snow and when it gets cold the summer tires really concern me. They don't like cold temps and the thumping noise when turning really sucks. The new Corvette C8s come with a Michelin all season tire and I was thinking about them since I don't track the car and I will admit that I don't squeal or drift the car on the street. What do you guys think?
#2
Depending on the model year 911 you own, your choice for an All Season tire may be highly limited. I do not believe Michelin makes an A/S tire that fits a 991.1 or 991.2 model.
Your reasoning is fine, yet the availability of A/S tires is the problem. I think Bridgestone may be the only option.
Your reasoning is fine, yet the availability of A/S tires is the problem. I think Bridgestone may be the only option.
#3
If you are serious about it, buy them now. If you wait until the fall, you may have problems with availability. That was the case last year.
The pickings are slim. The Bridgestone 980AS is what I got last year for my ‘15 GTS.
The pickings are slim. The Bridgestone 980AS is what I got last year for my ‘15 GTS.
#4
FWIW I ran Michelin all season tires on a (not porsche) sports car when I lived in the northeast 15yrs ago... it was fine. but they are a compromise. But, when it got cold they weren't like hockey pucks so as long as there wasn't ice or snow they did OK. The summer tires that were on the car when I got it were scary in winter.
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I might consider this route too once the PS4s wears out. I don't track and would rather enjoy the car all 4 seasons than stare at it in the garage.
My other toy is definitely getting all season tires next year. I don't have the room nor desire to deal with 2 sets of rims...
My other toy is definitely getting all season tires next year. I don't have the room nor desire to deal with 2 sets of rims...
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#8
I actually like the Bridgestone tires. They seem less jittery than the Michelin PSS and/or PZero tires; perhaps this is because the tires are heavier. The ride is smoother. I will be swapping them for my winter tires (Sottozero II - second set which were given to me by a fellow Rennlister; first set wore out after 7 seasons).
The AS nature of the tires will enable safe rides late into the fall season before the tire swap without concern for the temperature.
#9
I have the Bridgestone's and love them. Much better than the Pzero's that came on the car. I don't track the car and was looking for something that could give me longer life, safe in the summer rains, quiet and reasonable performance. With higher pressure they perform okay and provide a smooth ride. I will change to winter times when the snow falls. I can confidently wear them until then.
#10
I installed Bridgestone all seasons on my 2018 C4S last December, used a second set of rims (aftermarket) and have been so happy with them that I have not taken them off and don't plan to (my original set is RS Spyder wheels with Michelin PS4s that replaced P-Zeros). There are multiple threads about the rim widths best suited for these Bridgestone all-seasons. I have 8.5" front and 11" back, no issues, they fit great. Some reported that wider rims stretch the tires too much. The Bridgestones look a bit narrower than the Michelins in the same size. They drive a bit different, for my driving it's marginal. An added bonus is the fact that they don't pick up nearly as much as the Michelins (I have a tar/chip courtyard - Michelins would throw a ton of small rocks, these do not). I am in Virginia where winter can be all over the place and not too cold. I don't drive in snow, these allow me to drive any time without worrying. Highly recommend.
#11
I'm also wondering what to do with my tires...
I have the original Pirelli that came with my Carrera T, and I'm just shy of 15K miles. The rear tires are almost done, but the front have plenty of thread.
My options are:
1. Order 2 new PZero for the rear: $864.00
2. Order 4 new Michelin Pilot Sport 4S: $1,553.00
3. Order 4 new Bridgestone Potenza RE980AS (All Season): $906.00
I really don't NEED AS tires in Houston, but in winter it does get under 40 degrees and the PZero are absolutely horrible in cold temperatures and even worst in cold rainy days.
From $ point of view, the obvious option would be #3, I just don't know if I am losing from the perfomace point of view vs #1 and #2.
Thoughts?
I have the original Pirelli that came with my Carrera T, and I'm just shy of 15K miles. The rear tires are almost done, but the front have plenty of thread.
My options are:
1. Order 2 new PZero for the rear: $864.00
2. Order 4 new Michelin Pilot Sport 4S: $1,553.00
3. Order 4 new Bridgestone Potenza RE980AS (All Season): $906.00
I really don't NEED AS tires in Houston, but in winter it does get under 40 degrees and the PZero are absolutely horrible in cold temperatures and even worst in cold rainy days.
From $ point of view, the obvious option would be #3, I just don't know if I am losing from the perfomace point of view vs #1 and #2.
Thoughts?
#12
Same struggle here. I was set on the RE980, but it's the steering feel I'm really worried about.
On the other hand, I can get a set of RE980 from Costco for under $1,000 CAD plus a $70 Costco shop card as an added bonus. Pretty hard to beat that price when the MP4S are going to be more than double that amount.
The upside is less issue with gravel on the roads, and I can probably extend my driving season by two extra months (early March to late November) versus late March to late October... and if we get a really good Chinook here in Calgary, probably drive it at least once a month from December-February, too.
On the other hand, I can get a set of RE980 from Costco for under $1,000 CAD plus a $70 Costco shop card as an added bonus. Pretty hard to beat that price when the MP4S are going to be more than double that amount.
The upside is less issue with gravel on the roads, and I can probably extend my driving season by two extra months (early March to late November) versus late March to late October... and if we get a really good Chinook here in Calgary, probably drive it at least once a month from December-February, too.
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I'm also wondering what to do with my tires...
I have the original Pirelli that came with my Carrera T, and I'm just shy of 15K miles. The rear tires are almost done, but the front have plenty of thread.
My options are:
1. Order 2 new PZero for the rear: $864.00
2. Order 4 new Michelin Pilot Sport 4S: $1,553.00
3. Order 4 new Bridgestone Potenza RE980AS (All Season): $906.00
I really don't NEED AS tires in Houston, but in winter it does get under 40 degrees and the PZero are absolutely horrible in cold temperatures and even worst in cold rainy days.
From $ point of view, the obvious option would be #3, I just don't know if I am losing from the perfomace point of view vs #1 and #2.
Thoughts?
I have the original Pirelli that came with my Carrera T, and I'm just shy of 15K miles. The rear tires are almost done, but the front have plenty of thread.
My options are:
1. Order 2 new PZero for the rear: $864.00
2. Order 4 new Michelin Pilot Sport 4S: $1,553.00
3. Order 4 new Bridgestone Potenza RE980AS (All Season): $906.00
I really don't NEED AS tires in Houston, but in winter it does get under 40 degrees and the PZero are absolutely horrible in cold temperatures and even worst in cold rainy days.
From $ point of view, the obvious option would be #3, I just don't know if I am losing from the perfomace point of view vs #1 and #2.
Thoughts?
Option 2. Below 40 degrees don’t drive the T or just be careful and do not drive overly aggressive. I drive mine under 40 degrees and just take it easy while keeping in mind increased stopping distance. Don’t go cheap on tires for a 911.
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shammerman (08-07-2020)
#14
Originally Posted by 737gdog
Option 2. Below 40 degrees don’t drive the T or just be careful and do not drive overly aggressive. I drive mine under 40 degrees and just take it easy while keeping in mind increased stopping distance. Don’t go cheap on tires for a 911.
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I understand. We have many days in the ATL with temps below 40. I really enjoying driving in those conditions. Cold, dry and sunny. Just hate to go to all season for such a limited number of days. I just drive and take it easy.
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Class5Kayaker (08-15-2020)