$3000 for service, am I getting ripped off?
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my car is 8 yrs old with 22k. The service says it is 4 years or 40k miles. I asked this question on here and was told to do it before plugs seize up in there.
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I’m doing my service at my local Porsche dealer. My 2017 C4S has 6000 miles and they recommended me to do a $3000 Usd service including oil,filters,sparkplugs...etc, not even transmission.
I talked with the advisor and asked to do only oil change, cab fiter, and brake fluids. Still a $1400 quote.
Am I getting ripped off? Or all Porsche dealers price like this?
edit: I also brought in my own brake fluids.
edit2: This was at Porsche Irvine. Can anyone recommend me good indie shops near Irvine? Appreciate any input!
I talked with the advisor and asked to do only oil change, cab fiter, and brake fluids. Still a $1400 quote.
Am I getting ripped off? Or all Porsche dealers price like this?
edit: I also brought in my own brake fluids.
edit2: This was at Porsche Irvine. Can anyone recommend me good indie shops near Irvine? Appreciate any input!
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I'd never considered doing routine things to my car in my younger years but lately getting up and down from the floor of the garage is more of a pain. Never would I have thought I'd be paying someone to do an oil change, but the years speak to me now. It does have PASM and I have an extensive Snap-On chest that has not seen action in the last few years. Getting old sucks.
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Pacific German are just down the road from Irvine Porsche, that's where I go. That dealer incidentally did alignment for the wrong model on my car, luckily I spotted it.
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A few things here ... $3K *is* pricey. But, on a 2017 C4S, which is a 991.2, spark plugs are much more involved than in a 991.1, because of all the parts of the turbo system that have to come off on each side of the car. A job that is 1-2 hrs in the 991.1 is 6+ in the 991.2. The price of progress. None of it is *hard* work, just time intensive.
Secondly, as others have mentioned, plugs are time *or* mileage on a 911 (always have been). The reason is that you really don't want the plugs binding to the case on any engine, and given the flat 6 has the plugs exposed lower in the car, in some climates they are subject to the elements a bit more than ordinary cars. I know it seems silly to change the plugs at 6K miles, but at 4 years, you are better safe than sorry. A stuck plug over 4 years isn't going to earn you any goodwill at Porsche.
Dealer goodwill is real. Yes the $3K is top dollar, but my experience (PNH) with my cars (a 991.2 T and a Cayenne) is that when issues come up -- they will take care of you if you have a relationship with them and an issue is on the fence. If that is not important to you then ...
... find a good indy with a labor rate less than $295/hr. There are many good ones. Make sure they have experience with 991.2 plug changes. I wouldn't want mine to be the *first* car they tried it out on.
Good Luck!
Secondly, as others have mentioned, plugs are time *or* mileage on a 911 (always have been). The reason is that you really don't want the plugs binding to the case on any engine, and given the flat 6 has the plugs exposed lower in the car, in some climates they are subject to the elements a bit more than ordinary cars. I know it seems silly to change the plugs at 6K miles, but at 4 years, you are better safe than sorry. A stuck plug over 4 years isn't going to earn you any goodwill at Porsche.
Dealer goodwill is real. Yes the $3K is top dollar, but my experience (PNH) with my cars (a 991.2 T and a Cayenne) is that when issues come up -- they will take care of you if you have a relationship with them and an issue is on the fence. If that is not important to you then ...
... find a good indy with a labor rate less than $295/hr. There are many good ones. Make sure they have experience with 991.2 plug changes. I wouldn't want mine to be the *first* car they tried it out on.
Good Luck!
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A few things here ... $3K *is* pricey. But, on a 2017 C4S, which is a 991.2, spark plugs are much more involved than in a 991.1, because of all the parts of the turbo system that have to come off on each side of the car. A job that is 1-2 hrs in the 991.1 is 6+ in the 991.2. The price of progress. None of it is *hard* work, just time intensive.
Secondly, as others have mentioned, plugs are time *or* mileage on a 911 (always have been). The reason is that you really don't want the plugs binding to the case on any engine, and given the flat 6 has the plugs exposed lower in the car, in some climates they are subject to the elements a bit more than ordinary cars. I know it seems silly to change the plugs at 6K miles, but at 4 years, you are better safe than sorry. A stuck plug over 4 years isn't going to earn you any goodwill at Porsche.
Dealer goodwill is real. Yes the $3K is top dollar, but my experience (PNH) with my cars (a 991.2 T and a Cayenne) is that when issues come up -- they will take care of you if you have a relationship with them and an issue is on the fence. If that is not important to you then ...
... find a good indy with a labor rate less than $295/hr. There are many good ones. Make sure they have experience with 991.2 plug changes. I wouldn't want mine to be the *first* car they tried it out on.
Good Luck!
Secondly, as others have mentioned, plugs are time *or* mileage on a 911 (always have been). The reason is that you really don't want the plugs binding to the case on any engine, and given the flat 6 has the plugs exposed lower in the car, in some climates they are subject to the elements a bit more than ordinary cars. I know it seems silly to change the plugs at 6K miles, but at 4 years, you are better safe than sorry. A stuck plug over 4 years isn't going to earn you any goodwill at Porsche.
Dealer goodwill is real. Yes the $3K is top dollar, but my experience (PNH) with my cars (a 991.2 T and a Cayenne) is that when issues come up -- they will take care of you if you have a relationship with them and an issue is on the fence. If that is not important to you then ...
... find a good indy with a labor rate less than $295/hr. There are many good ones. Make sure they have experience with 991.2 plug changes. I wouldn't want mine to be the *first* car they tried it out on.
Good Luck!
Porsche Marin is pretty much as good as it gets w re to dealers. They've goodwill many things for me and always took great care to troubleshoot.
Porsche Walnut Creek are awful don't waste your time there they are clueless and rude.
Porsche Livermore are solid as well but quite a haul to get to and from if you don't live out that way...
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A few things here ... $3K *is* pricey. But, on a 2017 C4S, which is a 991.2, spark plugs are much more involved than in a 991.1, because of all the parts of the turbo system that have to come off on each side of the car. A job that is 1-2 hrs in the 991.1 is 6+ in the 991.2. The price of progress. None of it is *hard* work, just time intensive.
Secondly, as others have mentioned, plugs are time *or* mileage on a 911 (always have been). The reason is that you really don't want the plugs binding to the case on any engine, and given the flat 6 has the plugs exposed lower in the car, in some climates they are subject to the elements a bit more than ordinary cars. I know it seems silly to change the plugs at 6K miles, but at 4 years, you are better safe than sorry. A stuck plug over 4 years isn't going to earn you any goodwill at Porsche.
Dealer goodwill is real. Yes the $3K is top dollar, but my experience (PNH) with my cars (a 991.2 T and a Cayenne) is that when issues come up -- they will take care of you if you have a relationship with them and an issue is on the fence. If that is not important to you then ...
... find a good indy with a labor rate less than $295/hr. There are many good ones. Make sure they have experience with 991.2 plug changes. I wouldn't want mine to be the *first* car they tried it out on.
Good Luck!
Secondly, as others have mentioned, plugs are time *or* mileage on a 911 (always have been). The reason is that you really don't want the plugs binding to the case on any engine, and given the flat 6 has the plugs exposed lower in the car, in some climates they are subject to the elements a bit more than ordinary cars. I know it seems silly to change the plugs at 6K miles, but at 4 years, you are better safe than sorry. A stuck plug over 4 years isn't going to earn you any goodwill at Porsche.
Dealer goodwill is real. Yes the $3K is top dollar, but my experience (PNH) with my cars (a 991.2 T and a Cayenne) is that when issues come up -- they will take care of you if you have a relationship with them and an issue is on the fence. If that is not important to you then ...
... find a good indy with a labor rate less than $295/hr. There are many good ones. Make sure they have experience with 991.2 plug changes. I wouldn't want mine to be the *first* car they tried it out on.
Good Luck!
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We might be members of the same stern dad club. My daughter learned to drive with a MT (from day one). And got her license that way. And when she "adopted" one of the family cars as hers, she not only had changed the oil already, but replaced the clutch and timing belt. And she continues to make me proud, living a self-directed and self-sufficient life (and still likes to talk to me).
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My service was done a few weeks ago and was $2100 list but were running a 25% off deal so it ended up being a decent price. I thought my dealer was taking me for a ride.... wow, yours is horrible.
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Thanks for mentioning them. I didn't know about them. Between Lang Racing Dev., Pacific German, and GMG, we have a few decent choices in the OC.
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how un-millennial of her.
btw no offense intended... hope she’s at least of age or I’ll feel like a creep. I’m known to date half my age but never below 21!
btw no offense intended... hope she’s at least of age or I’ll feel like a creep. I’m known to date half my age but never below 21!
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$3k is ridiculous. About $1000 too high even from a dealer. The $1400 though for the oil change, brake fluid flush and filters is almost worse though. My dealer is $250 for an oil change, $220 for a brake flush then probably $100 or so for each filter. Which I find ridiculously high. Filters I will DIY, the oil change and brake fluid flush I take to an independent. Eventually I would like to do my own work though as it is rewarding and I do have the time. I just don't want to break something in the process.