Fair Purchase Price for a 2018 C4GTS Cab?
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2018 GTS C4 Cab - 10,000 miles on the clock and fully loaded with a lot of cosmetic options with $176K MSRP but missing a lot of options I would have liked on this car. The seller is asking for $120K. What do you guys think?
911 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet
Color Selection for Stitching in Deviated Thread
Steering Wheel Rim Stitching in Deviated Thread
Seat Stitching in Deviated Thread (Front and Rear)
Dashboard Stitching in Deviated Thread
Upper Door Panel Stitching in Deviated Thread
Rear Side Panel Stitching in Deviated Thread
Center Console Lid Stitching in Deviated Thread
Porsche Doppelkupplung (PDK)
Center Door Panel Stitching in Deviated Thread
Armrest Stitching in Deviated Thread
Door Handle Stitching in Deviated Thread
Chalk
Rear Axle Steering
Heated Multifunction Steering Wheel
Power Steering Plus Deletion of Alcantara
GT Sport Steering Wheel
Bose Surround Sound System
Leather interior in Black
Pedals and footrest in Aluminum
Carbon Fiber Interior Package i.c.w. Leather Interior Power Sport Seats (14-way) with Memory Package
Premium Package Plus i.c.w. Power Sport Seats (14-way)
Side Skirts Painted
LED Headlights in Black incl. Porsche Dynamic Light System Plus (PDLS+)
Instrument dials in White Sport
Chrono Clock Dial in White Seat
Belts in Chalk
SportDesign Exterior Mirrors incl. Upper Housing in Carbon Fiber
Extended Interior Package with Stitching in Deviated Thread
Door-Sill Guards in Carbon Fiber, Illuminated
PDK Gear Selector in Aluminum
Fuel Cap with Aluminum Look Finish
What would be a fair purchase price for this beauty?
911 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet
Color Selection for Stitching in Deviated Thread
Steering Wheel Rim Stitching in Deviated Thread
Seat Stitching in Deviated Thread (Front and Rear)
Dashboard Stitching in Deviated Thread
Upper Door Panel Stitching in Deviated Thread
Rear Side Panel Stitching in Deviated Thread
Center Console Lid Stitching in Deviated Thread
Porsche Doppelkupplung (PDK)
Center Door Panel Stitching in Deviated Thread
Armrest Stitching in Deviated Thread
Door Handle Stitching in Deviated Thread
Chalk
Rear Axle Steering
Heated Multifunction Steering Wheel
Power Steering Plus Deletion of Alcantara
GT Sport Steering Wheel
Bose Surround Sound System
Leather interior in Black
Pedals and footrest in Aluminum
Carbon Fiber Interior Package i.c.w. Leather Interior Power Sport Seats (14-way) with Memory Package
Premium Package Plus i.c.w. Power Sport Seats (14-way)
Side Skirts Painted
LED Headlights in Black incl. Porsche Dynamic Light System Plus (PDLS+)
Instrument dials in White Sport
Chrono Clock Dial in White Seat
Belts in Chalk
SportDesign Exterior Mirrors incl. Upper Housing in Carbon Fiber
Extended Interior Package with Stitching in Deviated Thread
Door-Sill Guards in Carbon Fiber, Illuminated
PDK Gear Selector in Aluminum
Fuel Cap with Aluminum Look Finish
What would be a fair purchase price for this beauty?
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I don't think a lot of these 'cosmetic' options add any value to the car. In fact, can't even select for them on Edmunds which gave a private sale value of about 105k.
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I am with you, CarGurus is telling him, his vehicle is worth $128K! Given the market, I cant even justify $105K for the vehicle, TBH
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I'd say $105K-$110K tops if no CPO. There's a few CPO Coupes out there at Dealers in the $110-$120 range. Not sure if being a Cab adds or subtracts, I think it depends on what the buyer values more. Personally a non-sunroof coupe is worthe more than a Cab to me, but everyone is different.
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I know cabs cost a lot more new but having owned a 991.1 cab, I can tell you that they aren't worth any more than a coupe when they are used. I have a friend who bought a beautiful 2018 Turbo S that was loaded with options but it had a black interior with black stitching and it had no pop to it - the deviated stitching which I presume is chalk or red plus extended leather must look really good. The only thing it is missing as far as I am concerned is the 18 way seats. Some folks view a axle lift as a must as well. So I would say that around $110 is a really good price. There are actually some new 2019s still out there but they are probably going to be quite a bit more.
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It surprises me that (a) someone would spend so much money personalizing a car, (b) then attempt to sell it soon afterwards and (c) expect the buyer to pay extra for those personalized elements. Must have money to throw away.
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I'd like to see some pics of the car, but personally I say you really cannot put a "book" value on such a car. Cosmetic options like it has can add a premium to car for the right buyer. There are so many plain Jane, boring interior cars out there that a buyer looking for something different does not have much to choose from if they want something that pops. And Cab buyers do not want a Coupe and vice-versa that means absolutely nothing.
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Someone with an active Manheim account can give you the most recent auction pricing to better value this car.
But I would also agree that cosmetic options have little to no resale value. Unless you're personally in love with the build, I wouldn't pay a premium for it.
But I would also agree that cosmetic options have little to no resale value. Unless you're personally in love with the build, I wouldn't pay a premium for it.
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I recently purchased a brand new 2019 4GTS coupe. I can tell you the seller is asking too much. At the same dealer they had a 2018 4GTS targa. Beautiful with all the stitches and leather pieces. MSRP was 165k and they are asking 110k and CPO with 6k miles. I believe 105k would have gotten the deal done. Maybe private party is not under the same pressure but I know the dealer wants the car gone. My 4GTS is low and I would scrap badly except I have the front lift. It’s something I wouldn’t have order but thankful for it.
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I recently purchased a brand new 2019 4GTS coupe. I can tell you the seller is asking too much. At the same dealer they had a 2018 4GTS targa. Beautiful with all the stitches and leather pieces. MSRP was 165k and they are asking 110k and CPO with 6k miles. I believe 105k would have gotten the deal done. Maybe private party is not under the same pressure but I know the dealer wants the car gone. My 4GTS is low and I would scrap badly except I have the front lift. It’s something I wouldn’t have order but thankful for it.
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I recently purchased a brand new 2019 4GTS coupe. I can tell you the seller is asking too much. At the same dealer they had a 2018 4GTS targa. Beautiful with all the stitches and leather pieces. MSRP was 165k and they are asking 110k and CPO with 6k miles. I believe 105k would have gotten the deal done. Maybe private party is not under the same pressure but I know the dealer wants the car gone. My 4GTS is low and I would scrap badly except I have the front lift. It’s something I wouldn’t have order but thankful for it.
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A week ago I had a Porsche dealer offer me $130k for my manual 2019 Targa GTS with just under 6k miles. The MSRP was $165k but I added PCCBs and other extras but he told me I could take a few things off if I wanted them (not the PCCBs!). Granted that was if I traded it in but it goes to show that real nice cars are not plummeting as some here are saying.