NiteJav

if you have an S you can always GTS your car and keep the warranty banditos happy.

ipse dixit

If we're talking about the new 992 Turbo S, then the entire chassis is different given the changeover from the 991 to 992 generation.

But since this is a 991 sub-forum, I would assume the apt comparison would be the 991 generation Turbo S (either .1 or .2) to the 991.2 Carrera S.

And, yes, while the basic underpinnings and overall chassis design is the same, there are not insignificant differences, including some of the more notable ones like better cooling for the turbos and redesigned turbos (compared to the C2S), better aerodynamics, as well as active aerodynamics in the front and rear, wider track, wider rear wheels (and offset), larger standard brakes (assuming the C2S isn't spec'd with optional PCCBs), and RWS. Of course, AWD, but then one could just get a C4/S, I suppose. Not to mention other standard goodies to make the Turbo S handle like it does, such as PDCC.

So lets say a person gets a tune, and pumps up the 991.2 C2S to something like 600 hp. Will that car handle at speed the same as a stock C2S? You say, "sure, why not, the Turbo S with about as much power does it with aplomb." But then the Turbo S comes with all the little things mentioned above that -- some that can be optioned on a regular C2S -- but some that cannot, like the aero tweaks, the wider track, RWS, and the larger contact patch from the bigger tires.

Just something to consider.

Of course, it's your car, do with it what makes you happiest. My point is simply that just adding more power alone rarely, if ever, makes the car better without also considering everything else that that power requires to make the car drive like it should, or can.

Trapperj

I reckon I’m old. It wasn’t long ago to get a 20% gain in HP /TQ required removal and rework of engine components. Lots is of head work, different camshafts, major Fueling problems. Now, with FI motors a simple flash and gains can be had much greater than that and zero drivability issues. What’s not to love about the that? The true golden age is now.

mrpat3l

I couldn't imagine going back to stock, I have a base 991.2 with an 93 APR tune. No downsides so far...

barncobob

i dunno, when i was single, 2AM in the bar those ***** made her look beautiful