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Old 04-05-2020, 12:40 PM
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I swear my 991.1 is louder (pse) with S+ on as well. So you're saying I'm imagining it? I do have the AWE switchpath tho...
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Originally Posted by 991.1 Guy
Those that do, how do you use the S+ mode on the street? In auto mode mine revs to redline even if I ease back on the throttle. I wish there was something in between S and S+. In my Mercedes, if you drove at 3/4 throttle for a few seconds it would upshift until you floored it again. S is a little too tame and S+ almost unusable except, I imagine, in an all out track setting. I guess that is the advantage of a manual.
Sport + on the street is best in manual mode. You can shift when you want and still take advantage of the increased throttle response.
In auto mode it will be every shift change to 7k rpm. Not the most comfortable or economical form of driving sport+.
Old 04-05-2020, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by mgordon18
If you have a 991.1 with sport exhaust, I think you're imagining things. Mine sounds exactly the same on my 991.1. The sport exhaust is on for both. That's it. 2 levels - on or off. The throttle mapping changes when I hit Sport, but it does not change again when I go to Sport+. Sounds the same and revs the same.

The changes that sport plus invokes are all things that can't be felt in a street application: the car runs cooler, the traction control allows more slip before kicking in. It'll go to redline before shifting in auto, but I'm always in manual mode whether normal, S, or S+, so I never see that.

991.2 may be different, but I don't think so. I've heard rumor that 991.2's S+ in Auto mode does NOT rev to redline. Is that true?
On my .2 GTS PDK the exhaust in S has the popping while in S+ it does not. I can't say where it revs to redline in S+ because i rarely drive S+ and when I do its always in manual mode.
Old 04-05-2020, 02:32 PM
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I have a 2012 991 cab S and as others have said sport plus is not usable in auto mode on the street. My 2017 Targa 4s works beautifully in auto mode and it is the only mode where rear axle steering is active.
Old 04-05-2020, 02:46 PM
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Sport plus on the streets and a freak in the sheets.
Old 04-05-2020, 03:25 PM
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So far, my preference is S+ manual mode using the shift lever not the paddles. And S in auto. It sounds like the mapping of the PDK changed slightly for the 991.2 that makes S+ more useful. I may look in to the Cobb tune as another poster here said they liked it.
Old 04-05-2020, 04:37 PM
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For those with 991.2's did you happen to notice that there seems to be an anti-lag of sorts going on in S+. The car is holding 1-2psi of boost even when you are completely off throttle. Also noticing a little better response. I'm sure there's tech data about this somewhere.
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Old 04-05-2020, 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by C7toM2toGT4?
I swear my 991.1 is louder (pse) with S+ on as well. So you're saying I'm imagining it? I do have the AWE switchpath tho...
I dunno. I think you're imagining it. I don't think there's an "even louder" feature to PSE. But I have no idea what's going on once you add aftermarket products. Maybe you're noticing the lack of pops, as mentioned earlier?
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Originally Posted by Penn4S
Sport + on the street is best in manual mode. You can shift when you want and still take advantage of the increased throttle response.
In auto mode it will be every shift change to 7k rpm. Not the most comfortable or economical form of driving sport+.
The increased throttle response is the same as Sport, though. So you can have it there, too. It doesn't change the mapping a second time from S to S+.
EDIT: Assuming you have a 991.1. I have no experience with the .2s.
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Originally Posted by mgordon18
I dunno. I think you're imagining it. I don't think there's an "even louder" feature to PSE. But I have no idea what's going on once you add aftermarket products. Maybe you're noticing the lack of pops, as mentioned earlier?
I haven't driven it enough in S+ to notice a lack of pops. It really could just be the higher rpm's that I'm hearing cause it is an absolute beast in S+. Too much for street driving. Haven't used it in manual yet. That's next!
Old 04-05-2020, 06:48 PM
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I didnt want to mess with my PDK but the inverted shifting caught my attention
Old 04-05-2020, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by B Russ
I didnt want to mess with my PDK but the inverted shifting caught my attention
I like that feature as well.
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Originally Posted by ChrisF
For those with 991.2's did you happen to notice that there seems to be an anti-lag of sorts going on in S+. The car is holding 1-2psi of boost even when you are completely off throttle. Also noticing a little better response. I'm sure there's tech data about this somewhere.
Mine holds 1-2 psi in S+. It's a great feature but there is always a part of my brain saying, "Man, you're wearin' your turbos out!"
Old 04-14-2020, 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by mgordon18
I don't notice the faster, firmer shifts unless I'm really hauling *** in the upper rev ranges, which is rare on the street.
I'll listen for the reduced exhaust popping. That's interesting.
I listened for the reduced pops in S+ this weekend. Honestly didn't notice it. Went back and forth from S to S+ a few times at highway and local speeds. Same pops either way.

As mentioned, I have a 991.1 with a dealer-installed, OEM PSE.
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I find the PDK never shifts where I want so I always drive in manual mode.

I also, immediately put the car in S+ when I start her up. I much prefer all the characteristics of this mode, especially the active motor mounts begin stiffer.


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