991.2 - Front spacer handling impact question
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991.2 - Front spacer handling impact question
The 992 is now wider track in front than rear?
" To aid front-end grip and handling, the front track is widened by 1.8 inches and the rear goes 1.5-inches further out than before. " {https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/future-cars/g25587336/2020-porsche-911-tech-backgrounder-details/}
What would be impact on handling if I put, say 7 or 10 mm spacers on just the front wheels of Carrera T?
thanks in advance.
" To aid front-end grip and handling, the front track is widened by 1.8 inches and the rear goes 1.5-inches further out than before. " {https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/future-cars/g25587336/2020-porsche-911-tech-backgrounder-details/}
What would be impact on handling if I put, say 7 or 10 mm spacers on just the front wheels of Carrera T?
thanks in advance.
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I believe that means that the front is now 0.3 inches closer to the rear track but not that the front is actually wider than rear. They are only citing the change in width. I think the rear is still wider. You would need to compare the total track width front vs rear to know.
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The 992 is now wider track in front than rear?
" To aid front-end grip and handling, the front track is widened by 1.8 inches and the rear goes 1.5-inches further out than before. " {https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/future-cars/g25587336/2020-porsche-911-tech-backgrounder-details/}
What would be impact on handling if I put, say 7 or 10 mm spacers on just the front wheels of Carrera T?
thanks in advance.
" To aid front-end grip and handling, the front track is widened by 1.8 inches and the rear goes 1.5-inches further out than before. " {https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/future-cars/g25587336/2020-porsche-911-tech-backgrounder-details/}
What would be impact on handling if I put, say 7 or 10 mm spacers on just the front wheels of Carrera T?
thanks in advance.
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Handling is the result of a system—and unless someone who can beat Weissach's engineers while tuning for a different set of compromises is setting it up, it's hard to beat Porsche's setups for the 991.2 imo. The list of someones is very, very short in my experience.
Yes, the 992 benefits from a wider front track. But as much as my 991.2 would look better with big spacers up front, changing the roll center and the effect on roll couple have prevented me from making the visuals better.
With all that said, the 991.2 Carrera/S/T is crying out for a go-to spring/adjustable perch/ARB setup to take advantage of TPC's very good DSC system. If a recommended wheel/tire set that altered the front track was part of that, I'd give that strong consideration too...
Yes, the 992 benefits from a wider front track. But as much as my 991.2 would look better with big spacers up front, changing the roll center and the effect on roll couple have prevented me from making the visuals better.
With all that said, the 991.2 Carrera/S/T is crying out for a go-to spring/adjustable perch/ARB setup to take advantage of TPC's very good DSC system. If a recommended wheel/tire set that altered the front track was part of that, I'd give that strong consideration too...
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Handling is the result of a system—and unless someone who can beat Weissach's engineers while tuning for a different set of compromises is setting it up, it's hard to beat Porsche's setups for the 991.2 imo. The list of someones is very, very short in my experience.
Yes, the 992 benefits from a wider front track. But as much as my 991.2 would look better with big spacers up front, changing the roll center and the effect on roll couple have prevented me from making the visuals better.
With all that said, the 991.2 Carrera/S/T is crying out for a go-to spring/adjustable perch/ARB setup to take advantage of TPC's very good DSC system. If a recommended wheel/tire set that altered the front track was part of that, I'd give that strong consideration too...
Yes, the 992 benefits from a wider front track. But as much as my 991.2 would look better with big spacers up front, changing the roll center and the effect on roll couple have prevented me from making the visuals better.
With all that said, the 991.2 Carrera/S/T is crying out for a go-to spring/adjustable perch/ARB setup to take advantage of TPC's very good DSC system. If a recommended wheel/tire set that altered the front track was part of that, I'd give that strong consideration too...
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Handling is the result of a system—and unless someone who can beat Weissach's engineers while tuning for a different set of compromises is setting it up, it's hard to beat Porsche's setups for the 991.2 imo. The list of someones is very, very short in my experience.
Yes, the 992 benefits from a wider front track. But as much as my 991.2 would look better with big spacers up front, changing the roll center and the effect on roll couple have prevented me from making the visuals better.
With all that said, the 991.2 Carrera/S/T is crying out for a go-to spring/adjustable perch/ARB setup to take advantage of TPC's very good DSC system. If a recommended wheel/tire set that altered the front track was part of that, I'd give that strong consideration too...
Yes, the 992 benefits from a wider front track. But as much as my 991.2 would look better with big spacers up front, changing the roll center and the effect on roll couple have prevented me from making the visuals better.
With all that said, the 991.2 Carrera/S/T is crying out for a go-to spring/adjustable perch/ARB setup to take advantage of TPC's very good DSC system. If a recommended wheel/tire set that altered the front track was part of that, I'd give that strong consideration too...
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Very interesting and informative conversation (not to mention civil, a rarity these days)
I would like to add that regardless of how Senna-like our skills and subsequent speed is on the street, its not really outright pace or MPH through a certain curve we are chasing, very few of us have hardware for true telemetry anyways
what we are all chasing is the "feel" and "communication" from the front and rear... That, for sure can be improved on any car, even the 987/997s that seem to have far better "feel" that the 991.x series can be improved.
Agree on the tires.. my cayman had contis and car felt like absolute crap... moved to M-4s and its like I had a whole new car.. my 991 has pirellis and they are pure garbage as well
I am on a quest to lighten all four corners (Girodisc rotors, titanium wheel bolts and eventually lighter wheels) and am reading up on which suspension pieces (from GT3) would make the greatest difference in "feel".. I just want more feel... thats all
I would like to add that regardless of how Senna-like our skills and subsequent speed is on the street, its not really outright pace or MPH through a certain curve we are chasing, very few of us have hardware for true telemetry anyways
what we are all chasing is the "feel" and "communication" from the front and rear... That, for sure can be improved on any car, even the 987/997s that seem to have far better "feel" that the 991.x series can be improved.
Agree on the tires.. my cayman had contis and car felt like absolute crap... moved to M-4s and its like I had a whole new car.. my 991 has pirellis and they are pure garbage as well
I am on a quest to lighten all four corners (Girodisc rotors, titanium wheel bolts and eventually lighter wheels) and am reading up on which suspension pieces (from GT3) would make the greatest difference in "feel".. I just want more feel... thats all