zunayed

Hey guys, quick question. I have an June allocation for a GT4 at MSRP.

My current car is a 2019 T with 20,500 miles. MSRP was $122k, bought for $116k. It’s Guards Red, 7MT, RWS, 18 ways with sunroof delete. It’s also specced to my liking with full leather, red stitching and red belts, and also has full PPF.

I’m being offered $84k for the car when I trade in in June, provided the dealer doesn’t have to change the brakes for CPO.

My build of the GT4 comes to approximately $114k. (4 ways and irons)

Delta: -$30k

Cons:
-Lose $30k
-No rear seats/storage space
-No 911 prestige/looks (I think the 991.2T looks amazing)
-No instant torque
-Long gears on GT4, though apparently new engine is plenty torquey and this is less of an issue

Pros:
-NA 4.0 9A2 with 8k Redline
-6MT that’s supposedly the best
-Midengine platform
-Lighter, smaller, more nimble
-GT suspension and handling

What do you guys think? Worth it?

infinitest

An almost 30% hit in one year seems a bit excessive to me, but I'm relatively new to the market for these vehicles. If it helps you at all, I had my choice between a used GT4 and a used 2017 C4 GTS with the C4 GTS being $15k more and it wasn't a hard decision at all to go with the 911.

JustBud

I would keep your T. Guessing from the mileage on your T you DD it. I think it would be hard to daily a GT4. (outstanding track car and weekender though)

desmotesta

GT4 is a track focused car that CAN be used on the road

T is a street car with 95% of performance of above mentioned track car. Both cars have capability way beyond the skill level of 98% of Porsche owners.

Both have reasonable following but are tools of very different sort.

spdracerut

Street car? Keep the T (and add headers, high flow cats, and a tune). Track car? GT4

ducktails

I went from a 981 GT4 to a T.
The GT4 is the right choice if track/DE is a significant part of your usage.
It's more complicated if you are planning to use it mostly as a back-road blaster or daily.
I personally found the suspension and low ride height a pain on our "rugged" streets and mountain roads.
The GT4 was by turns exhilarating (on the right roads in the right conditions) and a real PITA in others, whereas the T all-round has been "delightful".
Some portion of Porsche guys feel that a GT car carries more prestige, so consider if C&C is a considerable part of the enjoyment you expect from the car.

Klepper

I agree with the above posters. It really depends on your intended use. I have both a 911 T and a (981) GT4. They are very different cars. My 911 T is a much friendlier street car than the GT4. I prefer the 911T on the street, and the GT4 on the track.

HelpMeHelpU

You are being offered 72.4% of MSRP for a car with nearly 21k miles on it--that's a solid trade offer, IMO.

The other comments are fairly spot on, though neither car has LWBS (which is fine, of course; your preference), which makes for a more palatable DD.

There is a nothing like a mid-engine Cayman, so you might want to take that 30 grand and buy yourself a nice pre-owned Cayman (987) and have the best of both worlds for not much more money. I have seen some extraordinary 987s at very attractive prices.

You have a great car now. Question is, Do you want another great car, that's different. Only you can answer.

sanghav4

What is your other car? Most times, I think the decision depends on that. Can you still go on fun backroad blasts in the other one and then get the GT4 for the true sports car experience? Or is your other car a family hauler and you used the 911 for weekend fun as well as some track duty?

minthral

Ouch only 84k for 2019 T and losing 30k in a year due to depreciation? Keep it...Carerra > Cayman...I think you'll feel a downgrade with going other way. The lack of turbo torque and instant grunt will be noticeable. You may end up spending lots of time in cylinder deactivation mode on highways.

Nothing special about a 718 GT4 especially since a GTS gets same NA engine. Heck next gen they might all get same engine.

Greg D.

I think sharkwerks offer a lower final ratio that makes GT4s geared perfectly.... I wish that ecisted for 991.1 MTs ;-(
Personally I'd keep your T, I could not stomach the depreciation + the new car's depreciation, it's like getting kicked twice.

BlueNorther

If you have room and coin, I'd keep the T and add a Boxster (GTS 4.0 if cost not an issue). This would be a great combination. I use my 991.2 GTS as a daily commuting weapon year round when the roads are clear, and use the Boxster as a winter beater and summer top down roadster on the back roads, even unpaved roads.

computertom

I’m intrigued by the GT4/Spyders, but they “only” go to 8K. $30k for 600 rpm? I’d have a hard time taking that hit. I had some serious discussions with my dealer (remember, the GT folks are not limiting the number of these cars, there will be tons of them), and in the end decided I’d stick with my 911 a bit longer and just keep pile miles on it.

incidentally, used 2018 manual GT3s are starting to show up around $150. That’s a far more interesting car to me than a $120k loads GT4 that has tons more depreciation to take.

Jesse_911T

Aligned with other posters comments. Depends what you plan to do with it and what you want. I have both a 718 Cayman S and a 911 T. I enjoy both cars for different feel and their own unique characteristics. My buddy has a 981 GT4 that I have driven and ridden on road and track. He also had a 718 GT4 Allocation I could have taken from him, but decided to go with the T instead.

The GT4 is awesome for canyons and track. I would not want to daily drive it as it's a GT car and too "harsh" for daily road use. The T really is an awesome all around car.....daily, weekend trips, canyons, track. I also researched a lot before buying and I'd say many enthusiasts are more about the T than the GT4, or at least the same level of respect.

I'd say that trade in offer is fair for the miles you have, based on my recent exhaustive research on T prices in Dec.

k_h_d

Went from a 987 cayman S to a 718 Cayman S to a 911T. I never look back and don’t ever miss the Caymans. The T feels much better to me in all driving situations. Even though the GT4 is suppose to be special, I still think there is a reason the 911 is the car Porsche built its reputation on.