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Old 01-28-2020, 10:07 AM
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Curious what you guys would do in this situation:

Bought my car with 29k miles on it, now at 33k, black 991.1 S, very well optioned and very clean. Numerous small stone/sand chips on hood. Front bumper was recently refinished by an excellent body shop after damage at a dealership, although there are already 3-5 small stone chips on bumper because these cars are freaking rock magnets, otherwise it looks very good. I plan to do some HPDE's starting this spring, and keep it for a few more years.

I am definitely getting front PPF applied in the next month. Quotes in my area are $2400-$2700 for full front + rear 1/4 area. What they call a "track pack".

Do you think it would hurt my resale to have the hood and maybe top of fenders resprayed before having PPF applied? Eventually hoping to trade up into a 991.2 or maybe even a GT3 in a few years.

My fear is people always want "original" paint, but what this means is PPF over lots of small rock/sand chips. I don't think Dr Colorchip will do the trick here as the chips are numerous and very tiny. I think I can have the shop that did my bumper, do the hood/blend for $1500 +/-. I just fear the day I walk into the dealer to trade in, and they try to ding me 10-15% because I had the hood resprayed to make the car look better.

I would post a photo but I think you would need to see it in person to get the real story

What would you do?

PPF over stone chips in hood?

Respray hood/blend into fenders at Porsche certified shop and then PPF?
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If you're concerned about resale then I'd think that as a possible buyer I'd rather see a PPF over pristine paint as opposed to over original paint with chips.
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Old 01-28-2020, 11:16 AM
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A year ago, I bought a Basalt Black Metallic 2011 Cayman S. The hood was full of little chips, like you describe. I had the hood painted and PPF applied over top.I'm glad I did. It looks great. I just traded it in for a 2012 991, and I got good money for it largely because it looked so clean. Much cleaner that if it was original paint and full of chips!
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Old 01-28-2020, 11:23 AM
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Awesome, thanks for the feedback guys. Just got the quote from the body shop, $800-$1100.

www.jbbodyworks.com
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Originally Posted by AdamSanta85
Awesome, thanks for the feedback guys. Just got the quote from the body shop, $800-$1100.

www.jbbodyworks.com
Thats cheap! A porsche approved body shop did mine. Removed hood, fenders, bumper. Sanded them all down, resprayed, and install. Car sat 45 days, then PPF over the whole front clip. All edges wrapped. $5500 all in.

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Originally Posted by Homeles
Thats cheap! A porsche approved body shop did mine. Removed hood, fenders, bumper. Sanded them all down, resprayed, and install. Car sat 45 days, then PPF over the whole front clip. All edges wrapped. $5500 all in.
Your car looks great.

Well that's just for the paint work which will be spraying the hood and MAYBE blending into the fenders if need be, but my fenders are in good shape. They just redid my bumper soup to nuts, and paint corrected the **** out of it, in September so that saves a lot I think. Add $2400 for PPF, so $3400. Porsche approved shop.
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Originally Posted by AdamSanta85
Your car looks great.

Well that's just for the paint work which will be spraying the hood and MAYBE blending into the fenders if need be, but my fenders are in good shape. They just redid my bumper soup to nuts, and paint corrected the **** out of it, in September so that saves a lot I think. Add $2400 for PPF, so $3400. Porsche approved shop.
Thanks. Make sure they wrap all the edges. After a year or so, the edges fill with wax, dirt, etc. and become quite visible.
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Originally Posted by Homeles
Thanks. Make sure they wrap all the edges. After a year or so, the edges fill with wax, dirt, etc. and become quite visible.
Cool. I am either going to be using the installer the shop uses, or one local to me. All of them, body shop included, only work on super high end stuff. Last time my car was at the shop it was the crappiest car by far. Turbo's, Mclarens, Lambo, Ferrari, lots of Bentley etc.
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I have seen numerous PPF removals from panels that were repainted. Holy hell. Panels needed to be repainted again. What a costly mess.
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Originally Posted by Jack F
I have seen numerous PPF removals from panels that were repainted. Holy hell. Panels needed to be repainted again. What a costly mess.
Apparently it needs to be cured properly? They touch on that in the video below, about how there are ways to cure paint quick to allow rapid PPF application (towards end of video). The body shop in the video (J&B Body Works) is the same one that is doing my car. Their work is unreal, as is the customer service. They treat you like family.

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Originally Posted by AdamSanta85
Apparently it needs to be cured properly? They touch on that in the video below, about how there are ways to cure paint quick to allow rapid PPF application (towards end of video). The body shop in the video (J&B Body Works) is the same one that is doing my car. Their work is unreal, as is the customer service. They treat you like family.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BV0PMYfc3o
I guess you or the next owner will know how well the repaint was when they go to remove the PPF in the future.
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@AdamSanta85, glad to hear you're taking care of it.
Yup, those pesky stone chips are unavoidable without a clearbra, and even then there are no guarantees.
I have never understood the hesitance with respraying a car that has chips or a deep scratch on any given panel.
I was speaking to a PCNA rep about this and he laughed, saying that a handful of new their cars have panels resprayed at the factory.
Imperfections happen, paints run and they certainly don't scrap those cars and nor does their value change.
However, for some strange reason when this is done after the fact, all manner of doubt jumps into the equation.
I hope it works out well for you.
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Originally Posted by Jack F
I have seen numerous PPF removals from panels that were repainted. Holy hell. Panels needed to be repainted again. What a costly mess.
Factory paint can peel with PPF removal as well. Many times the PPF sits on the car way longer than it should, which makes removal difficult.
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When I bought my 991.1 TT with 36,000 miles the paint was chipped up on the hood, fenders, rockers and rear quarters. I resprayed the whole car except the rear bumper, spoiler, louvers and and roof. I waited 30 days for the paint to cure then covered 3/4 of the car in PPF and ceramic coated. After a year the paint is still flawless. I don't buy that someone would pay more for a car with original paint in poor condition than a car with perfect paint after a respray. Personally, I would not enjoy the car as much if I had to look at the chipped up paint everyday.
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Originally Posted by Jim991
When I bought my 991.1 TT with 36,000 miles the paint was chipped up on the hood, fenders, rockers and rear quarters. I resprayed the whole car except the rear bumper, spoiler, louvers and and roof. I waited 30 days for the paint to cure then covered 3/4 of the car in PPF and ceramic coated. After a year the paint is still flawless. I don't buy that someone would pay more for a car with original paint in poor condition than a car with perfect paint after a respray. Personally, I would not enjoy the car as much if I had to look at the chipped up paint everyday.
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