991.2 4S vs 992 Base

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Jan 9, 2020 | 06:36 PM
  #1  
I've suddenly found myself in a bit of a struggle. I'm committed to getting a 911 but it's right at the edge of my price range. Currently I have a 992 C2 with a build that locks mid February. The cost, with discount, is at $117k.

I have been looking at some CPO, very low mileage 2017/2018 4S models that are very well spec'd, nearly the exact same as what I'd do. I could get one of those in the $95-100k range.

I've driven the 992 a few times and love it. I drove a 991.1 and did not love it, but have not driven a 991.2. There are none available at my nearest dealerships, I'd have to go out of state. My understanding is the 992 base should be about equivalent performance wise to a 991.2 S, although in this case I'd also gain AWD (which is a benefit for me). I don't think the interior difference makes a tremendous difference to me.

For those who have extensively driven a 991.2 and 992.. if you had to choose which direction would you go for a 20k mile/year daily driver? A 991.2 4S or a 992 C2?

Appreciate any additional help/insight.
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Jan 9, 2020 | 07:24 PM
  #2  
No way a 992 base would hold a candle to 991.2 4S. I'd make a concerted effort to find a car to drive before locking in on the base 992. As a base 991.2 owner, the base 992 has no appeal to me at all. Can't see that it would compete with a 991.2 4S.

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Jan 9, 2020 | 07:44 PM
  #3  
991.2 is very similar to the 992. So if you loved the 992, (assuming drivetrain, power delivery ect) then you will love the 991.2. Go drive one, you got some time. I would go with a lightly used .2 especially if you will be racking up those miles...
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Jan 9, 2020 | 07:46 PM
  #4  
Based on reading the first two replies I would think you guys haven't actually driven the 992. The driving experience is so much better on the 992!
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Jan 9, 2020 | 07:55 PM
  #5  
Quote: I've suddenly found myself in a bit of a struggle. I'm committed to getting a 911 but it's right at the edge of my price range. Currently I have a 992 C2 with a build that locks mid February. The cost, with discount, is at $117k.

I have been looking at some CPO, very low mileage 2017/2018 4S models that are very well spec'd, nearly the exact same as what I'd do. I could get one of those in the $95-100k range.

I've driven the 992 a few times and love it. I drove a 991.1 and did not love it, but have not driven a 991.2. There are none available at my nearest dealerships, I'd have to go out of state. My understanding is the 992 base should be about equivalent performance wise to a 991.2 S, although in this case I'd also gain AWD (which is a benefit for me). I don't think the interior difference makes a tremendous difference to me.

For those who have extensively driven a 991.2 and 992.. if you had to choose which direction would you go for a 20k mile/year daily driver? A 991.2 4S or a 992 C2?

Appreciate any additional help/insight.
What do you love about the 992 if you do not care about the interior? Engine is the same in the 991.2 4s (what I own) and 992. The new one is much more luxurious. Less NVH and more comfortable. My 991.2 manual after 2.5 years already feels very dated and noisy and I will be trading it in soon for something else.
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Jan 9, 2020 | 07:59 PM
  #6  
Quote: No way a 992 base would hold a candle to 991.2 4S. I'd make a concerted effort to find a car to drive before locking in on the base 992. As a base 991.2 owner, the base 992 has no appeal to me at all. Can't see that it would compete with a 991.2 4S.
I believe the 992 base uses an improved version of the 991.2 S motor so a 992 base can go head to head with a 991.2 4S. In fact because the 992 base is 2WD and a wide body it would most likely beat the 991.2 4S in every way due to the 992 being significantly lighter.
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Jan 9, 2020 | 08:04 PM
  #7  
Quote: Based on reading the first two replies I would think you guys haven't actually driven the 992. The driving experience is so much better on the 992!
I've read the opposite, more disconnected? There is no MT 992, until then I will hold off.
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Jan 9, 2020 | 08:05 PM
  #8  
I do care about the interior & exterior differences, but I already have a firm value on what that means to me. Looking for other aspects I haven't considered, mainly as I don't readily have a 991.2 available to test.

911., everything I've read suggests the 992 has more feedback (especially the RWD versions). I can tell you it feels worlds better than a 991.1.

As Carlo said, the 992 base uses a heavily modified 991.2 S engine and should have comparable numbers to a 991.2 4S.
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Jan 9, 2020 | 08:22 PM
  #9  
Quote: I do care about the interior & exterior differences, but I already have a firm value on what that means to me. Looking for other aspects I haven't considered, mainly as I don't readily have a 991.2 available to test.

911., everything I've read suggests the 992 has more feedback (especially the RWD versions). I can tell you it feels worlds better than a 991.1.

As Carlo said, the 992 base uses a heavily modified 991.2 S engine and should have comparable numbers to a 991.2 4S.
The 992 base uses a slightly upgraded engine from the 991.2 base. Something like 14 hp more. With the added weight of the 992- you’ll hardly feel a performance increase. Maybe the steering, handling and ride quality is better in the 992- but it’s an expensive trade up proposition for a 991.2 base owner with marginal returns. No interest from me at this time.
The 991.2 4S is a 420 hp car and much less money than a new 443 hp 992 S.
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Jan 9, 2020 | 08:33 PM
  #10  
Quote: I do care about the interior & exterior differences, but I already have a firm value on what that means to me. Looking for other aspects I haven't considered, mainly as I don't readily have a 991.2 available to test.

911., everything I've read suggests the 992 has more feedback (especially the RWD versions). I can tell you it feels worlds better than a 991.1.

As Carlo said, the 992 base uses a heavily modified 991.2 S engine and should have comparable numbers to a 991.2 4S.
Maybe we should define driving experience? I am looking at it from a purist point of view...

Crester is right, I havent driven a 992 yet. However, I dont really believe most YT reviews, especially when it comes to someone going over the driving experience in an automatic. There is a difference in feeling speed/being faster and purist driving experience. More compliant and further insulated from the road also speaks volume to driver connection with the car. Most of the 'feedback' that I have read/heard about, what I believe is a wider track for the RWD that the outgoing .2 never got. I might be wrong as it really is one of those things that you need to just go and drive for yourself, for a weekend preferably to see and feel the differences.

I still think the experience overall will be very similar between the 991.2 and 992. So If it was me, I would drive a 991.2 first and then if the feel is what you like, it should be an easy choice (I hope )
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Jan 9, 2020 | 08:40 PM
  #11  
The 992 base weighs 140+ pounds less than 991.2 4S.

992 base has 34 less HP than the 991.2 4S.

They are very evenly matched.
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Jan 9, 2020 | 08:56 PM
  #12  
"although in this case I'd also gain AWD (which is a benefit for me)"
This statement speaks volumes I think.
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Jan 9, 2020 | 08:57 PM
  #13  
if youre gonna rack miles and drive in winter get the 4s. Dynamically they should be similar if the 4s has sport package with ras
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Jan 9, 2020 | 09:06 PM
  #14  
Quote: "although in this case I'd also gain AWD (which is a benefit for me)"
This statement speaks volumes I think.
I don't know how much benefit I gain with AWD over the 992 having Wet Mode. I drive carefully in the rain and if I drive in the snow it's very slowly & plowed roads, plus I keep appropriate tires on.

It makes me feel better but I'm not sure how much, if at all, it actually benefits me. Right now there is only 1 CPO 4S that has the options & price I want and I could reasonably test drive, but it doesn't have the sport package or RAS.
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Jan 9, 2020 | 09:11 PM
  #15  
The .2 4s also has a variable limited slip e- diff And torque vectoring. These are much more stable than the open diff rwd in bad weather for sure, esp when you factor tq is shuffled to the front. And the weight distribution is more front biased in the 4s
911 still gets hairy when you lose traction (of which there is alot due to rear engine). But once u lose grip its still a widow maker
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