Notices
991 2012-2019
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Learning to drive stick /well/

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 10-26-2019 | 11:51 PM
  #1  
SockToy's Avatar
SockToy
Thread Starter
Instructor
 
Joined: Jun 2016
Posts: 248
Likes: 73
From: NJ NY
Default Learning to drive stick /well/

So being British, my first few cars were stick, but ever since my 2009 C4S I've had dual clutch autos. Our family runaround now is an automatic Merc.

I'm thinking my next fun car will be manual, but really, I've never driven a manual gearbox at pace, nor one where I'd be afraid of damaging it or getting in the wrong rev ranges.

Any suggestions beyond 'buy an mx5 and practice' ?

If I find the right Targa I suspect I'll have to move quick - and I'd like to not break the gearbox ;p Alternative is just PDK forever... but as its not a DD (my C4S was our only car in London) I figure something more engaging and less practical is probably in order

Cheers

M
Old 10-26-2019 | 11:58 PM
  #2  
Bob Z.'s Avatar
Bob Z.
Rennlist Member
 
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 12,535
Likes: 3,462
From: Marineland FL
Default

I have a manual Targa and when my wife first drove it she said that it seemed very easy to drive and she did not appear to have any difficulties and the car never bucked, etc. - if she can do that well I am sure you can. Give it a shot and you will appreciate the interaction and joy rowing yourself brings to an enthusiast.
Old 10-27-2019 | 02:42 AM
  #3  
bkrantz's Avatar
bkrantz
Rennlist Member
 
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 6,098
Likes: 1,137
From: SW Colorado
Default

Better yet, buy an old car or truck without synchromesh and practice.
Old 10-27-2019 | 07:31 AM
  #4  
LexVan's Avatar
LexVan
Banned
 
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 26,141
Likes: 5,418
From: Chicagoland Area
Default

Repetition.
Muscle memory.
Take the Porsche driving class for manuals.
Old 10-27-2019 | 08:16 AM
  #5  
Penn4S's Avatar
Penn4S
Rennlist Member
 
Joined: Mar 2014
Posts: 4,779
Likes: 1,368
From: SW Florida
Default

If you've driven manuals before which you have it won't be difficult at all to drive the mt cars. Biggest concern is over revving on a bad down shift. Take it slow till you are comfortable and confident pushing it. The mt's in the new cars a very well built and can stand the abuse.
Old 10-27-2019 | 09:36 AM
  #6  
stanleymorton's Avatar
stanleymorton
Advanced
 
Joined: Jun 2017
Posts: 51
Likes: 4
From: Southern Maryland
Default Manual

Dude, these are race cars. I thought you will break it! Get your manual and enjoy it. SC option with rev matching will have you anticipating your next drive every time. Awesome feature to have with the manual along with the PSE if your into the pops n crackles like I am!
Cheers Mate!!!!
Old 10-27-2019 | 10:47 AM
  #7  
Carlo_Carrera's Avatar
Carlo_Carrera
RL Community Team
Rennlist Member
 
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 11,506
Likes: 2,647
From: Nearby
Default

You answered your own question. "..buy an mx5 and practice.."
Old 10-27-2019 | 11:18 AM
  #8  
Bxstr's Avatar
Bxstr
Rennlist Member
 
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 8,821
Likes: 3,253
Default

I don't think you will have an issue. Just start out slow and get familiar with the gearbox. Sit in your garage and practice going through the gears. I will never feel as confident driving a manual car quick as I do an automatic car, but luckily for me, I am not going for driving the quickest on the street, I am going for enjoyment, so going slower and enjoying the drive is ok with me.
Old 10-27-2019 | 11:59 AM
  #9  
BlueNorther's Avatar
BlueNorther
Pro
 
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 606
Likes: 153
From: Northern Vermont
Default

It's like riding a bicycle. You've had manual cars in the past, it will come back quickly. The sports chono option with he auto revs will be ideal for you, and hill start will also be there.. My teen kids have driven my manual Porsches (after learning on a beater) and adapted quickly and without incident. Biggest thing is not to give too much gas when engaging first, the powerful engine can smoke the clutch.
Old 10-27-2019 | 01:50 PM
  #10  
spdracerut's Avatar
spdracerut
Three Wheelin'
 
Joined: Feb 2016
Posts: 1,835
Likes: 610
Default

Originally Posted by SockToy
So being British, my first few cars were stick, but ever since my 2009 C4S I've had dual clutch autos. Our family runaround now is an automatic Merc.

I'm thinking my next fun car will be manual, but really, I've never driven a manual gearbox at pace, nor one where I'd be afraid of damaging it or getting in the wrong rev ranges.

Any suggestions beyond 'buy an mx5 and practice' ?

If I find the right Targa I suspect I'll have to move quick - and I'd like to not break the gearbox ;p Alternative is just PDK forever... but as its not a DD (my C4S was our only car in London) I figure something more engaging and less practical is probably in order

Cheers

M
Buy a Miata and practice (US side of the pond). Seriously though, it's fantastic car to learn on along with learning all the fundamentals of making a slow car go as quickly as possible around corners. Fast cars hide driver mistakes. No cheater hill hold assist either. Or auto rev-matching.

Personally, in street driving, I double clutch my downshifts. Only on track do I just do a straight rev match and bang it down to the next gear.
Old 10-27-2019 | 02:58 PM
  #11  
freeman's Avatar
freeman
Addict
Rennlist Member

 
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 1,016
Likes: 22
From: Tallahassee, Florida
Default

My wife received a graduation present in 1966 of a new MGB when she graduated from college. I met her in 1969 and she was perfect with that MT. All it takes is practice. She has driven all my Porsches perfectly from 1974 through 2015.
Old 10-27-2019 | 03:07 PM
  #12  
BSO's Avatar
BSO
Three Wheelin'
 
Joined: Sep 2018
Posts: 1,495
Likes: 556
Default

The Porsche manuals with Sport Chrono (rev-match) are a joy to drive. My C4S is manual.

I drove a manual GTS at the Barber PTX at a reasonably fast pace and had no issues whatsoever shifting.

Granted, the GTS manual I drove had so much torque that apart from the start, it was only necessary to use 3rd and 4th throughout the course (could have dropped down to 2nd in some parts). It was great.

If you want a manual and get one, you won't regret it. That being said and all things being equal, if you plan on regularly tracking the car, you will be slower in a manual.

Good luck.
Old 10-27-2019 | 03:18 PM
  #13  
koala's Avatar
koala
Three Wheelin'
 
Joined: Aug 2017
Posts: 1,864
Likes: 540
From: Calgary, AB
Default

These cars are not that fragile (other than the pin that breaks off for reverse!). I wouldn't even hesitate to let my wife drive mine if she wanted to. She hasn't driven a MT more than a handful of times and that was nearly 15 years ago.
Old 10-27-2019 | 07:06 PM
  #14  
Norsk's Avatar
Norsk
Rennlist Member
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 825
Likes: 207
From: A Yankee in Dixie
Default

PCar with rev match is so simple a caveman can do it.
Old 10-27-2019 | 10:51 PM
  #15  
dudeoverthere's Avatar
dudeoverthere
Burning Brakes
 
Joined: Sep 2019
Posts: 838
Likes: 713
Default

Don't know the year you are shopping but the 991s have a really nice and easy clutch and gear throw. Just take it easy to start no matter the year since every make and model has its quirks.


Quick Reply: Learning to drive stick /well/



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 06:27 AM.