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Old Sep 30, 2019 | 06:11 PM
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There is a dealer closer to me and their paint guy says he can come very close with just touch up but I need to go during a weekday and get an estimate

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That's cool ! I really like shoes made with Chromolux leather from Horween Tannery out of Chicago, man - that's a great shoe leather. Allen Edmunds works with that hide series a lot, and of course the Italians work black magic with their aniline hides and the way they flame burnish shoes on the high end.

We whack so many bumper covers at our house I've become quite good at fixing them. Between the wife, the kids, and myself I've probably saved about $ 10K in bumper cover repairs the past eight to nine years. A lot of that skill set comes from furniture repair, as I do own a furniture store and learned spot repairs on wood a long time ago. Metal and plastic are not much different. On my own 991S, I caught one of those cement curb stops about a year ago right in front of the left wheel that put two 4" gouges in it, I was able to sand it all down, rattle can it, clear it, rub it out and challenge my fellow local Porsche guys to find the spot. Now if you are looking for concours quality, its not going to happen, but for a street ride you can get them 95% to where most no one can pick up on it.

Really hard repairs are on the hood however, because that's where the refraction of the paint will be and your eye can pick that up easily. On the bumper covers though, not so much. After all, chances are you are going to prang it again so why spend the money getting it professionally done each time?
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Old Sep 30, 2019 | 06:18 PM
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I would be shocked to see a proper repair with just a paint touch up...it really comes down to your expectations. To repair that bumper properly, especially when it comes time for resale, that rear bumper should be refinished
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Old Sep 30, 2019 | 07:24 PM
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Consider this before calling your homeowners. I don't know about every state but in my state the insurance companies have recently lobbied and won the following. If you call your insurance company and make or even inquire about making a claim they will raise your rates. I previously posted that car insurance companies can also charge higher rates when you switch to a new company for accidents you were NOT at fault with. Money for nothing is the new marketing strategy.
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Old Sep 30, 2019 | 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by TimboCarrera
Consider this before calling your homeowners. I don't know about every state but in my state the insurance companies have recently lobbied and won the following. If you call your insurance company and make or even inquire about making a claim they will raise your rates. I previously posted that car insurance companies can also charge higher rates when you switch to a new company for accidents you were NOT at fault with. Money for nothing is the new marketing strategy.
+1...we’ve noticed dealing with insurance companies and repairs, they’re really starting to cut corners. Sa d really, premiums go up and service goes down
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Old Sep 30, 2019 | 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by drcollie
That's cool ! I really like shoes made with Chromolux leather from Horween Tannery out of Chicago, man - that's a great shoe leather. Allen Edmunds works with that hide series a lot, and of course the Italians work black magic with their aniline hides and the way they flame burnish shoes on the high end.

We whack so many bumper covers at our house I've become quite good at fixing them. Between the wife, the kids, and myself I've probably saved about $ 10K in bumper cover repairs the past eight to nine years. A lot of that skill set comes from furniture repair, as I do own a furniture store and learned spot repairs on wood a long time ago. Metal and plastic are not much different. On my own 991S, I caught one of those cement curb stops about a year ago right in front of the left wheel that put two 4" gouges in it, I was able to sand it all down, rattle can it, clear it, rub it out and challenge my fellow local Porsche guys to find the spot. Now if you are looking for concours quality, its not going to happen, but for a street ride you can get them 95% to where most no one can pick up on it.

Really hard repairs are on the hood however, because that's where the refraction of the paint will be and your eye can pick that up easily. On the bumper covers though, not so much. After all, chances are you are going to prang it again so why spend the money getting it professionally done each time?
Used to do a lot of business with the Horween guys. Special leather especially for men's product.
I do a lot on my car also but don't have the paint repair skill you possess.
Do love working with leathers from tanners around the world.
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Old Oct 1, 2019 | 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by drcollie
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We whack so many bumper covers at our house I've become quite good at fixing them. Between the wife, the kids, and myself I've probably saved about $ 10K in bumper cover repairs the past eight to nine years. A lot of that skill set comes from furniture repair, as I do own a furniture store and learned spot repairs on wood a long time ago. Metal and plastic are not much different. On my own 991S, I caught one of those cement curb stops about a year ago right in front of the left wheel that put two 4" gouges in it, I was able to sand it all down, rattle can it, clear it, rub it out and challenge my fellow local Porsche guys to find the spot. Now if you are looking for concours quality, its not going to happen, but for a street ride you can get them 95% to where most no one can pick up on it.

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Any recommendation for filler ? I have 6 front license plate holes to fix that I don’t want to bumper plug since it’s 6 vs 4.
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Old Oct 1, 2019 | 08:16 AM
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Any recommendation for filler ? I have 6 front license plate holes to fix that I don’t want to bumper plug since it’s 6 vs 4.
Six holes in the cover? That's best left to a body shop who will have an airless plastic welder to put material back into the drilled area then re-paint.
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Old Oct 1, 2019 | 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by drcollie
Six holes in the cover? That's best left to a body shop who will have an airless plastic welder to put material back into the drilled area then re-paint.
Following your’s and others leads I want to try to fix it first. It’s low risk as long as I’m careful and don’t make it any worse. Worst case I’m back to where I started.
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Old Oct 2, 2019 | 03:41 AM
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I'd try for a touchup fix first, but have a professional do it. There are guys that will come to your house and do this kind of work, with excellent results. I had a mishap with my rear bumper and was hoping to get it at least 90% taken care of without a re-spray (expense, hassle, potential hit for respray / Carfax.) I figured it was worth a the risk, and worse case I'd take it in to get resprayed at a body shop anyway. The guy who my local detailer referred me to came out and did the job today (yesterday he was busy doing similar work on 3 Paganis.) Here's what he had to start with - most of the scrapes were well beyond the paint and into the bumper material:





Finished Job:







He normally likes to come back and do some more wet sanding and polishing after the touchup paint is cured, but we both agreed this looked good as-is. You can see a touch of orange peel, but it's worse in the pics than what you see with your eye and is consistent with the factory paint elsewhere on the bumper. This car is also going to go in to get detailed and ceramic coated next week, so that paint correction for that should work well to make everything look the same for this repair and everything around it.
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Old Oct 2, 2019 | 07:26 AM
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Nice work.
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Old Oct 2, 2019 | 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by sali1980
Thanks everyone! I got two estimates and they are around $2000-$2200.
That is excessive. I got my commuter back yesterday with a bumper repaint (on the other guy's dime) - strictly take it off, fix gouges, repaint, put back on, $840.
That's without the porsche tax, which is excessive considering how EASY taking off a 991 bumper is.
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Old Oct 2, 2019 | 04:27 PM
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Nice job! I got 3rd estimate today and it's the same total - $2000.

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I'd try for a touchup fix first, but have a professional do it. There are guys that will come to your house and do this kind of work, with excellent results. I had a mishap with my rear bumper and was hoping to get it at least 90% taken care of without a re-spray (expense, hassle, potential hit for respray / Carfax.) I figured it was worth a the risk, and worse case I'd take it in to get resprayed at a body shop anyway. The guy who my local detailer referred me to came out and did the job today (yesterday he was busy doing similar work on 3 Paganis.) Here's what he had to start with - most of the scrapes were well beyond the paint and into the bumper material:





Finished Job:







He normally likes to come back and do some more wet sanding and polishing after the touchup paint is cured, but we both agreed this looked good as-is. You can see a touch of orange peel, but it's worse in the pics than what you see with your eye and is consistent with the factory paint elsewhere on the bumper. This car is also going to go in to get detailed and ceramic coated next week, so that paint correction for that should work well to make everything look the same for this repair and everything around it.
Decent
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Old Oct 2, 2019 | 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by sali1980
Nice job! I got 3rd estimate today and it's the same total - $2000.
$340 for this work in San Francisco. If anyone is interested, PM me and I'll pass on the contact info.

I'm normally quite picky, but I convinced myself that as long as this got it to 80% to 90% good that I could live with it (this is a car that is driven daily, spends time in cities, often parallel parked, etc. . .) I was quite surprised by the quality on first inspection. The couple tiny blemishes I could find will disappear when it's detailed next week (normally he comes back to wet sand and fix himself.) The one thing I am slightly uncertain of at this point is how the color match will hold up in different lights given that Agate Grey shifts a bit depending on the light. This concern is a risk with a re-spray as well, and at least with this touchup it's only a small spot on the curves of the bumper (that already reflect different colors anyway) and not the entire bumper that's off.
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